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so what is the reason that "god" gives people cancer? Have you ever thought that maybe "god" wants those people to die and not pursue any medical treatment? Or are you going to blame satan for giving people cancer? Yet the op is supposedly the one with the mental illness...
My MIL lived 12 years after her breast cancer diagnosis. I have no doubts she would lived a shorter life had she had treatment.
I suffered for 5 years of misdiagnosis, including itching that never went away (constantly, for years - I still have scars), increasingly severe anxiety and trouble breathing and 3 years of back pain so severe that it would wake me up almost every night. Toward the end, the pain was so bad that it was making me incontinent at the ripe old age of 22.
Without treatment, I probably would have lived another 1 at least. But what life?
With treatment, all of my pain and issues were gone in less than a month.
The OP is only stage 2. He could have 2 or 3 years of pain as his kidneys shut down and tumors invade other parts of his body.
So what is the reason that "God" gives people cancer? Have you ever thought that maybe "God" wants those people to die and not pursue any medical treatment? Or are you going to blame Satan for giving people cancer? Yet the OP is supposedly the one with the mental illness...
God doesn't give people cancer that is very mental that you would even assume that. Unfortunately this world is filled with sin however environmental factors plays a major part in illnesses along with hereditary diseases. If someone was smart enough they would realize and be thankful that there are treatments for their illness and fantastic doctors/hospitals in this world that can help them. God gives many people wisdom but if someone is stubborn to not use the great resources we have available then that's their own fault and choice to not get help.
Last edited by possibleyou; 09-27-2019 at 12:42 PM..
God doesn't give people cancer that is very mental that you would even assume that. Unfortunately this world is filled with sin however environmental factors plays a major part in illnesses along with hereditary diseases. If someone was smart enough they would realize and be thankful that there are treatments for their illness and fantastic doctors/hospitals in this world that can help them. God gives many people wisdom but if someone is stubborn to not use the great resources we have available then that's their own fault and choice to not get help.
I am not aware of any evidence that God gives anything to anyone, or even exists. If you have some evidence to support your claims, I’d love to see it. This is a thread about a human being making a human decision in the real world. It is not necessary or desirable to bring anything else into it. I also reject the concept of sin, which is a human mechanism designed to exercise control over the behavior and conduct of fellow humans. The concept “sin” is ultimately meaningless arbitrary nonsense. And again, it is an unnecessary hijack to a thread about real world problems and real world solutions invented and perfected by man and only man: medical science.
Having had 5 close family members who died from cancer after going through treatments, I believe the burdens and pain of the treatment far outweight the benefits. I'll not put myself through the rollescoaster of building expectations and having them crushed all the time. I'll not go through the uncertain and the unexpected. I prefer certainty.
I also do not believe life is somewhat precious. Mine certainly isn't. We interfere too much with our own health. The amount of suffering people go through because "life must be kept at all costs" is beyong insanity.
Mind you, not going ahead with treatment also means suffering. But at least in this case you know what's expecting you. And that somewhat gives you a certain comfort.
Chemo and radiation kill your immune system. maybe that's why. I too reject the circus that it conventional medicine. Therapies like Gerson make way more sense. Do what's best for you, not your family. Best of luck and hang in there
God doesn't give people cancer that is very mental that you would even assume that. Unfortunately this world is filled with sin however environmental factors plays a major part in illnesses along with hereditary diseases. If someone was smart enough they would realize and be thankful that there are treatments for their illness and fantastic doctors/hospitals in this world that can help them. God gives many people wisdom but if someone is stubborn to not use the great resources we have available then that's their own fault and choice to not get help.
Ok, thanks for clarifying. If God really does exist, he (or she) has definitely blessed me this week.
A gross and inaccurate assumption. Maybe in the case of someone preparing for a bone marrow transplant they do. Most chemo regimens don't "kill" your immune system, but many agents used certainly affect it temporarily. Key word here is TEMPORARY. The intent is to selectively kill rapidly-dividing cells...like white blood cells, neutrophils, and yes, cancer cells. Its also why a common side effect is hair loss; again, those are relatively rapidly dividing cells. Radiation affects bone marrow if its within the radiation treatment area. It doesn't damage bone marrow that is outside the targeted area.
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I am not aware of any evidence that God gives anything to anyone, or even exists. If you have some evidence to support your claims, I’d love to see it. This is a thread about a human being making a human decision in the real world. It is not necessary or desirable to bring anything else into it. I also reject the concept of sin, which is a human mechanism designed to exercise control over the behavior and conduct of fellow humans. The concept “sin” is ultimately meaningless arbitrary nonsense. And again, it is an unnecessary hijack to a thread about real world problems and real world solutions invented and perfected by man and only man: medical science.
I don't care if you believe in God or dont that's your life and really irrelevant. However all I was trying to say is in the US which is our country yes, we are blessed to have medical science and great health care resources. So if you were dying then why wouldnt you choose to get help from a doctor or specialist? If you dont then you are simply just stupid for not trying to get help with your medical illness. Maybe you just dont value your life. I'm finished posting on this thread.
I don't care if you believe in God or dont that's your life and really irrelevant. However all I was trying to say is in the US which is our country yes, we are blessed to have medical science and great health care resources. So if you were dying then why wouldnt you choose to get help from a doctor or specialist? If you dont then you are simply just stupid for not trying to get help with your medical illness. Maybe you just dont value your life. I'm finished posting on this thread.
We are not “blessed” to have medical science. Man invented medical science and Man is responsible for all medical inventions, treatments, and improvements. Using the term “blessed to have” in this context implies that the medical science was “given” to Man by an external supernatural entity. There is zero evidence for that claim, and expressing it does not provide any valid truth. There is no “blessed”. There is hard work, and human intelligence, and focused effort. And then you get the medical science that saves lives.
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