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Old 09-24-2019, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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To the OP: sweeping generalizations are never accurate. And, you don’t understand friendships among women, either.

So yeah, poppycock!
You don't understand friendships among men, which are indeed very different. Women define friendships by their needs, while men define friendships by shared experience and loyalty.
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Old 09-24-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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You don't understand friendships among men, which are indeed very different. Women define friendships by their needs, while men define friendships by shared experience and loyalty.
Both are defined by needs and both share experiences and loyalties. It's just kind of experiences and loyalties one pursues depend on the need, or better yet drive.
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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This really is ridiculous.

Question: If a man gets ill and is bedridden, and needs help going to the bathroom, or if a woman gets ill and is bedridden & needs help going to the bathroom....whose same-sex friend will rush to help first?

(Hint: I feel sorry for the man, unless he has a spouse/partner.)
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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And here's my experience.


I've known my best friend for close to 30 years.


A few years ago, when she and her husband were having problems, and it looked like they were going to divorce, she moved in with me and my family, until she could get on her feet, for about 4 months, until she could get a job and find an apartment. I went to the "nth" for her (with my husband's support). And I would do it all again. And I have no doubt she'd do the same for me if needed.


I resent being told that I'm shallow, competitive, and want to throw the other females in my life under the bus.


This sounds like, to ME, another attempt to trash women, and it's a tiresome topic.
I hope you don't think that I am a male.


You are definitely an exception to the norm, very few women would go to the extent you did for your best friend. One of my really close friends left me on my own me when I needed a ride home after I came out on her insistence. I mean its nothing major but it bugged for many days because I am not someone who asks for a favor or to inconvenience someone. What I learned from that is to not depend on anyone, especially friends.
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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This really is ridiculous.

Question: If a man gets ill and is bedridden, and needs help going to the bathroom, or if a woman gets ill and is bedridden & needs help going to the bathroom....whose same-sex friend will rush to help first?

(Hint: I feel sorry for the man, unless he has a spouse/partner.)

Hmm, this is actually a really good question. In this type of scenario, I would assume that a woman is more likely to help her female friend than a man would help his guy friend. A wife is more likely to help than a husband would. But isn't it because women are hard wired to be caretakers?


So basically you need to be near death to be well taken care of by a female friend (j/k)
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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This is all poppycock. Completely ridiculous, and down right wrong.


Next??
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Male and female friendships do have a different dynamic but this can only be considered as a difference in averages for no same rule applies to every single friendship or even person.

The research suggests that male type brains are more geared toward systemizing ("drive to analyze or build a rule-based system") and female brains toward empathizing. This translates into the kind of relationships individuals pursue, so those with male type brains (including women) will seek associations that focus on hobbies, sports, and other structured activities where one can pursue individual success whilst still bonding over the loyalties implied within the rule structure of the joint activity etc.

Those with female type brains (including men) on average are more focused on relationships that bring out their empathizing side, those that engage social pretence and where higher standing is usually a sign of relatability, reciprocity, and collaboration. As female type brains are more geared toward communication this too affects the way in which these friendships are sustained through socially enabling language.

Because their approach to relationships differ, I think it's misleading to compare women's degree of happiness to that of men for these relationships simply meet different needs.

All of the above.

Men and women are different. Both male and female individuals differ within their own gender groups. Some individuals (of both sexes) are more capable of (or have better opportunity for) developing deep and meaningful friendships.

That is all.
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:37 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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I have always felt that the kind of friendship men have with their buddies is way more genuine than what women have with other women. Even when I was growing up, I could sense that girls always tried to compete, were less willing to help out a friend (homework etc), picked friends based on superficialities (beauty, grades, how rich your parents were).

Now as an adult, my perception hasn't changed much. I don't think women are genuinely happy for their female friends and want the best for them. When they feel threatened in anyway, they don't hesitate to throw you under the bus. If nothing else, there is this subconscious competition they have going on with you, from how pretty you might be compared to them to who gets wife-ed up first and by who etc.


I am sure there might be jealousies and egos with male friendship too, but despite that I still think men are willing to go to the lengths for their male friends that they wouldn't even for their women.


I guess I want to know what do men compete on with their 'friends'?
Talk about blanket generalizations...which are usually wrong. Don't you think the individuals involved have something to do with it? FWIW, can't think of a single close woman friend (and they are the ones who matter) I've had so far I felt any need to compete with. But a need to compete, feelings of vulnerability, inferiority, being victimized mostly has to do with ME, not THEM.
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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My observations match the OP's. When men and women interact we get drama, disagreements, and misunderstandings. When women interact with other women we see similar drama and cattiness. When men interact with men, they generally get along unless someone really crosses a line.

What's the common denominator where the trouble is concerned?
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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My observations match the OP's. When men and women interact we get drama, disagreements, and misunderstandings. When women interact with other women we see similar drama and cattiness. When men interact with men, they generally get along unless someone really crosses a line.

What's the common denominator where the trouble is concerned?
You could just as easily generalize and say men just get into pissing contests and violence as means to problem solve. How many wars with men running thibgs?

Why must some people constantly be looking to generalize one sex as being somehow superior?
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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My observations match the OP's. When men and women interact we get drama, disagreements, and misunderstandings. When women interact with other women we see similar drama and cattiness. When men interact with men, they generally get along unless someone really crosses a line.

What's the common denominator where the trouble is concerned?
Lol! My son when he was in grade school shared his observation between the differences between the boys and girls, he told me that when boys get into a fight we punch each other and get over it and when the girls get mad they don’t speak for days and get others to take their sides.
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