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Old 09-25-2019, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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When I was in high school I always remember sticking with the policy of dating someone my own grade. Now, what if your bday supercedes her by a couple of days? I guess you'd be a sex offender once you turn 18 and she's still 18.
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Old 09-25-2019, 08:41 AM
 
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The term Sex Offender has as many nebulous overtones as DUI. When you hear of someone getting a DUI, what do you automatically assume? Was it .082 or was it 1.9, completely different. Does anyone ever ask, or just the assumptions he was too drunk to drive.

With sex offenders it's no different. The term conjures up all kinds of ideas, and the worst assumptions. They should really add a few more terms to sex offenders, to separate the ones who abused small children to an 18YO who had sex with a 15 or 16YO!

I would be more worried about the sex offenders, one of which could be living right next door to you, that haven't been caught yet or will never get caught. Yup! The guy who waves to you, bring you over baked cookies, goes to church every Sunday!

Not really going to agree with you on the DUI analogy that you're making.. but your last point there is spot on.

Take any sex crime.. What are the odds that someone who is on the registry committed that crime? very, very low. Look at the thing in Utah where the guy was just sentenced to life for killing his niece... He wasn't on the registry.. His sister allowed him to stay at their house. He raped and killed his niece.. How could that happen? He wasn't on the registry!



The registry gives a very big false sense of security. Most people are too dumb to realize it. The registry grabs their attention so that they are looking in one place and the danger quite often is in another place.
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Old 09-25-2019, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I was corresponding with a sex offender in AZ for a number of years, he was 17, having had sex with a 14YO and he served a long 12 year sentence for it, and there was no chance I could offer him any refuge in Las Vegas, where I lived, as there was a middle school just up the street from me. He seems to be doing alright, working at a Bakery in Phoenix.

I worked in a LTC/Rehab facility for 17 years and a year before I left some older sex offender was a patient in our facility, and one day, someone caught him using the Day room computer, and that's all it took to throw him back in prison. And being in a wheelchair, what harm could he have done to the elderly patients in the facility?
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Old 09-25-2019, 11:08 AM
 
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I worked in a LTC/Rehab facility for 17 years and a year before I left some older sex offender was a patient in our facility, and one day, someone caught him using the Day room computer, and that's all it took to throw him back in prison. And being in a wheelchair, what harm could he have done to the elderly patients in the facility?

I'd have a hard time arguing against that. It was a restriction of his probation or parole. Sex offender or not.. If you have conditions to your release and can't follow them..

I get where you're coming from, what harm would he do? but, if you're told that you can't do A, B or C and you do them.. well.. That's the end result, you go back to prison.


We can argue that maybe shouldn't have been a restriction on him.. But end of the day.. it was.




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When I was in high school I always remember sticking with the policy of dating someone my own grade. Now, what if your bday supercedes her by a couple of days? I guess you'd be a sex offender once you turn 18 and she's still 18.

Most states do have Romeo and Juliet exceptions nowadays. Where someone who is 17 can't be arrested for sex with someone who is 15. However, one of the hiccups is that SORs were retroactive and don't always take this into account. So, back in the day, someone got arrested for that, and they're on the SOR.
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Old 09-25-2019, 11:41 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Can you be put on the sex registry for soliciting a prostitute?

Edit: Never mind. I remembered it was for child pornography.
Worth answering though... depends on state. In my state, solicitation can result on being placed on the registry according to the judge. If you are caught promoting (which is very loosely defined), it is mandatory.

Yes.. the point of the registry was to protect potential future victims but has been morphed and warped into a catch all punishment for all sorts of things at the disposal of the prosecutor. It needs to be changed...
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Old 09-25-2019, 11:44 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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When I was in high school I always remember sticking with the policy of dating someone my own grade. Now, what if your bday supercedes her by a couple of days? I guess you'd be a sex offender once you turn 18 and she's still 18.
Romeo and Juliet laws should apply... it is slightly different from state to state.

They needs something similar to apply to child pornography posession in which the sender and receiver are dating/partnered in close proximity of age. Kids do stupid stuff all the time.. they shouldn't be placed on the registry for such things. It downplays the importance of the registry and at the same time is draconian punishment for some that end up on that list.
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Canada
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It's a sad thing that a person becomes a registered sex offender for LIFE, when you are caught at 17 with a nudie photo of your girlfriend who is 16.

This just doesn't seem right. As I said, it's sad.

This day and age with social media and "selfies" is going to get a lot of people on that list. It's just too easy and too tempting to send photos back and forth.

Parents and teachers need to EDUCATE these teenagers that stupid things they did in their youth (such as this) can follow them and cause havoc for life.
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Old 09-25-2019, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The age of consent before 1900 was roughly 12YO, then it went up to 14YO and in the 30's it has stayed steady at 16YO. And the last time I checked, it was still 14YO in Italy.

Now if you look at old photo's of your grandparents and especially your great grandparents, who you may revere, but little do you know they could have been sex offenders today, locked up behind bars, for dating someone 14YO..
Life spans were shorter back then, and people married at much younger ages. That is why the age of consent was lower. Lots of people married in their teens. But things have changed. These days, the age of consent should be higher.
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Old 09-25-2019, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Dessert
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We had a house sale fall through, with the written explanation that there was a RSO in the neighborhood. In conversation, she mentioned the dining room was too small, and she later tried to get our realtor to pay for the inspections they had done because she advised us not to disclose the Hells Angels clubhouse in the neighborhood (which had a large sign out front, "Hells Angels Clubhouse."

So I think the RSO was just an excuse for changing her mind. That seems wrong, especially when one can be forced to register if caught skinny dipping.

The market was red hot (2005), and the house sold immediately to someone else.
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Old 09-26-2019, 04:38 AM
 
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Can you be put on the sex registry for soliciting a prostitute?

Edit: Never mind. I remembered it was for child pornography.
In some states though, yes. Pretty sure OP said it was from having a younger gf when he was 18.
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