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Old 12-23-2019, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Yes, I've tried. It fell flat. She's beyond entitled.
She's recently said that if her mother doesn't continue to fund her college education that she's dropping out as she doesn't want to get a loan. (yet she went to Australia this year, Coachella, Costa Rica, and several other places).
That's such a shame.

Is your relationship with your sister strained?? Is this her only daughter?

I guess you should just send the gifts to her to avoid all that angst.
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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He wouldn't be "relegated."

If he understood etiquette, he would realize that he is a newcomer in this scenario and HE would bow out gracefully, for a little while. He should at least offer. It's not as if he's your husband.

But it looks like the choice has been made anyway.

I think you need to talk to your sister about her daughter dictating how the family operates.
Wow, this is not how I would treat a guest. The man is a guest in the house. I would never tell my guest he/she had to go to a different room now while I entertained other guests. That's beyond weird, and horrible manners at minimum in my book. That's like treating him like he's a lower-class servant or something. I mean, if you were a guest in someone's house for Christmas, would that sound good to you?
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
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I have had countless Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners with strangers. When I was in the navy I was often too far from home and would go eat and peoples house. ( It was a sign up thing, they signed up to host and we signed up to eat lol)

It was all about sharing. I met many great people and had fun every single time. Welcome your friend with open arms.
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:41 PM
 
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Your niece is a spoiled brat. Enjoy it with your friend.
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:42 PM
 
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Not a jerk at all, no.
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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Thanks SundayDrive and Diana. I don't consider him a boyfriend as realistically he lives across country. He's been very kind to me during his visit and it would be nice to make plans down the road to travel together.
That being said, I don't want to stray too much from my own OP.

Even though she hasn't specifically stated her problem, I think the main gist of my Niece's angst is that she doesn't want to deal with opening gifts in front of a stranger. I'm thinking back to when I was just out of college and my parents graciously allowed my boyfriend at the time into their home. My niece wasn't even born yet, but my sister was there. Selective memory.
When I met my husband online he lived in Minnesota and I lived in Washington. . Don’t rule anything out yet. If he can come and stay a couple weeks over the holidays it doesn’t sound like he’s all that tied down wherever he’s currently from. :-)
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Wow, this is not how I would treat a guest. The man is a guest in the house. I would never tell my guest he/she had to go to a different room now while I entertained other guests. That's beyond weird, and horrible manners at minimum in my book. That's like treating him like he's a lower-class servant or something. I mean, if you were a guest in someone's house for Christmas, would that sound good to you?
I guess you didn't read carefully enough to notice that I said HE would take the initiative to bow out for a little while so they could celebrate their Christmas as they usually do. It's the chivalrous thing to do, since he is technically intruding.

It's not going to happen, obviously, but nowhere did I say the OP should tell him anything you have suggested.

Meanwhile, it's interesting how many here are telling her to throw over her family for this old flame who's staying over.
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:49 PM
 
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I guess you didn't read carefully enough to notice that I said HE would take the initiative to bow out for a little while so they could celebrate their Christmas as they usually do. It's the chivalrous thing to do, since he is technically intruding.

It's not going to happen, obviously, but nowhere did I say the OP should tell him anything you have suggested.

Meanwhile, it's interesting how many here are telling her to throw over her family for this old flame who's staying over.
I don't know about the fellow respondents, but I know I'm confused as to why I should have to choose? My visitor left this morning to visit his brother (a few hours' drive away), but he'll be back tomorrow. I'm not even going to tell him about this drama. Not his monkeys.
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:50 PM
 
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Because the family is being unreasonable. There is always room for one more at our table. Even if it’s just a neighbor that will be alone at Xmas.
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:52 PM
 
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That's such a shame.

Is your relationship with your sister strained?? Is this her only daughter?

I guess you should just send the gifts to her to avoid all that angst.
Yes, the niece is my sister's only child. My sister has severe emotional issues. Our relationship is not strained, but she does not like conflict so she's funneling everything through to her daughter as she can't cope.
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