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Old 03-31-2011, 07:21 AM
 
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Ohio recently passed a bill that would limit collective bargaining rights for public workers. All of our teachers, police officers and firefighters will be greatly and negatively affected by this. I have heard that NC doesn't have unions. So I, as a teacher hoping to relocate down there, am curious as to how the salary structures, working conditions, benefits, etc...are for teachers in NC.

Can anyone who is an educator give me any insight? Since I'm fresh out of school and have never been in a union, I really wouldn't know what I'm missing by not having a union. I guess I'd like to know if it is really as bad as some make it out to be.

Thanks!
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:31 AM
 
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There are no teacher unions in NC. The NCAE is the teacher's association and lobbing group but many teachers never join that group.
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:40 AM
 
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Ohio recently passed a bill that would limit collective bargaining rights for public workers. All of our teachers, police officers and firefighters will be greatly and negatively affected by this. I have heard that NC doesn't have unions. So I, as a teacher hoping to relocate down there, am curious as to how

the salary structures,


working conditions, benefits, etc...are for teachers in NC.

Can anyone who is an educator give me any insight? Since I'm fresh out of school and have never been in a union, I really wouldn't know what I'm missing by not having a union. I guess I'd like to know if it is really as bad as some make it out to be.

Thanks!


the salary structures,
Set by the state -- NO increases last 3 going on 4 years.
Each county has a "supplement" ranging from $1000 -- $5000 per year payable semi-annually.

working conditions,
Varies by school and by county. Some are worse than others. Generally do more with less attitude...


benefits,

Health insurance for employee only. Dependents are out of your pocket ranging from $375 month to $475 month...
Retirement is paid by you through a 5-6% of your salary contribution
Vestment is 20 years for insurance after retirement--however the folks in Raleigh are currently working on a way to eliminate that for new hires and increase i nsurance co-pay
Survive 10 years and you are vested in retirement pension (may change as well)


etc...are for teachers in NC.

WHY TEACH IN NC? Only if there is nowhere else to get a job and you and your spouse are BOTH employed..

Then again, ask why teach anywhere>>

Can anyone who is an educator give me any insight? Since I'm fresh out of school and have never been in a union, I really wouldn't know what I'm missing by not having a union.

I believe all new contracts are now TERMINATING, meaning there is no expectations of being employed the following year...

I guess I'd like to know if it is really as bad as some make it out to be.

YES it can be...

The NCEA has no POWER, influence or real standing so most teachers do not pay the $500 (I think) membership fee...UNION dues would be cheaper!!
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:15 AM
 
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the salary structures,
NO increases last 3 going on 4 years.
Health insurance for employee only. Dependents are out of your pocket ranging from $375 month to $475 month...
Retirement is paid by you through a 5-6% of your salary contribution
Vestment is 20 years for insurance after retirement--however the folks in Raleigh are currently working on a way to eliminate that for new hires and increase i nsurance co-pay
Survive 10 years and you are vested in retirement pension (may change as well)
Not terribly different than jobs in the private sector:

My last salary increase was in 2007.
My employer does not pay my health insurance, although premiums for myself and my dependents are subsidized.
My only retirement is my 401(k) with a 50% company match on my contributions.
I will never receive retirement health care coverage other than Medicare.
I don't have a pension plan.
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:31 AM
 
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Not terribly different than jobs in the private sector:

My last salary increase was in 2007.
My employer does not pay my health insurance, although premiums for myself and my dependents are subsidized.
My only retirement is my 401(k) with a 50% company match on my contributions.
I will never receive retirement health care coverage other than Medicare.
I don't have a pension plan.

Guess we both ought to public run for office and have LIFETIME health benefits, 75% of our salary for just 4 years of service and PAY RAISES we could give ourselves..
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Old 03-31-2011, 11:53 AM
 
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Thanks for the info....to make myself clear, my husband would be transferring with his company and I'd need to transfer my teaching licensure to NC. The job outlook for me is bad in Ohio, and I assume it's like that across the country. Seems like every person I know with a teaching degree is working in a grocery store somewhere.
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Old 03-31-2011, 11:55 AM
 
Location: My House
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Not terribly different than jobs in the private sector:

My last salary increase was in 2007.
My employer does not pay my health insurance, although premiums for myself and my dependents are subsidized.
My only retirement is my 401(k) with a 50% company match on my contributions.
I will never receive retirement health care coverage other than Medicare.
I don't have a pension plan.
I work in the private sector.
My last salaray increase was oh... 2 days ago. I've had one every year since 2007 (when I went full-time with my company) EXCEPT for last year.

All of my health insurance is subsidized.

My company matches my contributions 100% up to 4% (or maybe it's 6, I forget).

We have retirement health plans.

We have a pension plan.

I think it really depends on the company.

However, I do think that government jobs are the way to go. I'm thinking of running for Senate.
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Old 03-31-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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I think it really depends on the company.
Very true. I wasn't intending to suggest that my sitaution was representative of all private sector jobs - just pointing out that teachers aren't the only ones who have been going through some tough times.

Last edited by CHTransplant; 03-31-2011 at 12:29 PM.. Reason: Typo
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Old 03-31-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: My House
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Very true. I wasn't intending to suggest that my sitaution was representative of all private sector jobs - just pointing out that teachers aren't the only ones who have been going through some tough times.
Well, that's the truth. I do have great benefits, but this is the first year outta the past 3 that they didn't immediately start talking layoffs.

My department is about half the size it was last year.
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