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Old 03-11-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Southport
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Originally Posted by Mutiny77;
probably the case that NC is becoming a bit more libertarian than conservative.
Split that hair, baby!

And there's nothing Libertarian about Amendment One.
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Old 03-11-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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But anyway, North Carolina is more like Virginia.
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Old 03-11-2015, 11:17 AM
 
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Split that hair, baby!
It's actually a pretty notable distinction. Fiscally conservative, but more socially moderate to liberal.

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And there's nothing Libertarian about Amendment One.
Nope; the very nature of the referendum ensured that social conservatives would come out in droves to vote for it, as with any hot-button social issue, and the timing of the referendum ensured the outcome definitively. I think it still would have passed had it been on the November 2012 ballot, but not by nearly as much.
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Old 03-11-2015, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Southport
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It's actually a pretty notable distinction. Fiscally conservative, but more socially moderate to liberal.
LOL, I'm aware of what the Libertarian Party stands for, thanks.

I'm glad you agree the state is moving more conservative, whatever label you wish to apply to it.
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Old 03-11-2015, 11:47 AM
 
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The failure of all this palavering about the state becoming more "conservative" is the failure to establish that a Republican elected to a NC office is any more or less conservative than the Jessiecrat they replaced. Furthermore, there were Democrats in the GA who took the same position as that as the GOP on Amendment 1.
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Old 03-11-2015, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Southport
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The failure of all this palavering about the state becoming more "conservative" is the failure to establish that a Republican elected to a NC office is any more or less conservative than the Jessiecrat they replaced. Furthermore, there were Democrats in the GA who took the same position as that as the GOP on Amendment 1.
If you look at the votes, and whats been done legislatively in the General Assembly, its obvious that the General Assembly post-2010 is more conservative than pre-2010. And the term "Jessiecrat" (sic) really has virtually no meaning anymore.

So, how many Democrats in the General Assembly voted in favor of Amendment One?

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Old 03-11-2015, 12:02 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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It's actually a pretty notable distinction. Fiscally conservative, but more socially moderate to liberal.



Nope; the very nature of the referendum ensured that social conservatives would come out in droves to vote for it, as with any hot-button social issue, and the timing of the referendum ensured the outcome definitively. I think it still would have passed had it been on the November 2012 ballot, but not by nearly as much.
Many transplants are coming from areas where Republicans are fiscally conservative & socially moderate. They continue to vote Republican until it dawns on them what they are voting for. For some it may take longer than for others. Arlen Spector was a prime example. For instance, I know many people in South Jersey who are personally against abortion but will not vote for a candidate who takes that stand because of other views that come with that stance. There's a learning curve.
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Old 03-11-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: U.S. (East Coast)
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I've lived in ALL 3 states; Virginia is better.
VA, then NC, then SC.

South Carolina is still a backwards hell hole.
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Old 03-11-2015, 12:19 PM
 
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LOL, I'm aware of what the Libertarian Party stands for, thanks.

I'm glad you agree the state is moving more conservative, whatever label you wish to apply to it.
I believe it's much more nuanced and contextual than you're implying.
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Old 03-11-2015, 12:21 PM
 
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I've lived in ALL 3 states; Virginia is better.
VA, then NC, then SC.

South Carolina is still a backwards hell hole.
Thanks for such enlightened commentary.
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