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Old 06-24-2011, 05:58 AM
 
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Good article about North Carolina's eugenics program that inlcudes a pamphlet from an organization called The Human Betterment League of North Carolina. It was formed in 1947 and didn't fold until 1988.

They basically promoted the sterilization of "mental defects" in the state. There's testimony going on this week in Raleigh by a task force that will make recommendations to the governor including the possibility of payments to those that were sterilized that are still alive.

http://www.lib.unc.edu/blogs/ncm/ind...man-betterment

From the 1920s to the 1970s, the NC Board of Eugenics oversaw the sterilization of nearly 7600 people.

An in depth article is also availabe at The Winston-Salem Journal: Against Their Will - North Carolina's Sterilization Program
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Old 06-24-2011, 03:43 PM
 
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Hitler would have been so proud

Guess I could see how this backward ignorant way of thinking existed back in the 1920-40's, but this program went on until 1970
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Old 06-24-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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Hitler would have been so proud

Guess I could see how this backward ignorant way of thinking existed back in the 1920-40's, but this program went on until 1970
Usually the "H" word is a thread stopper for me but you're right. It's interesting but I think one of the reasons a lot of things changed in the state as far as that and racism (yes it still exists) is because of RTP. The feds weren't going to participate unless we modernized down here.

Can you imagine being a research scientist in the Triangle being surrounded by those two issues?
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Old 06-24-2011, 05:59 PM
 
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Hitler would have been so proud

Guess I could see how this backward ignorant way of thinking existed back in the 1920-40's, but this program went on until 1970
Eugenics programs were in place up until the 70s in a bunch of states and Canada and Sweden, and into the 1980s in Switzerland. To NC's credit they're the only state really at the forefront in terms of reconciliation and publicizing what happened.
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Old 06-24-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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Eugenics programs were in place up until the 70s in a bunch of states and Canada and Sweden, and into the 1980s in Switzerland. To NC's credit they're the only state really at the forefront in terms of reconciliation and publicizing what happened.

Very interesting to know, thanks
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Old 06-26-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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This is a bunch of left wing BS!!! Granted it was wrong. So was slavery. Taxes on tea. Public hanging. Many more. Thing is listen again to most of the speakers. They are have one tone. COMPENSATION!!! Why??? The state was doing what at the time was thought best. They were doing the same as others. People think that because it is look at as wrong now they need a dollar. BS!!!! It happened. Sorry. What more????
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:54 PM
 
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This is a bunch of left wing BS!!! Granted it was wrong. So was slavery. Taxes on tea. Public hanging. Many more. Thing is listen again to most of the speakers. They are have one tone. COMPENSATION!!! Why??? The state was doing what at the time was thought best. They were doing the same as others. People think that because it is look at as wrong now they need a dollar. BS!!!! It happened. Sorry. What more????
I can't think of anything more of a right wing cause as compensating someone for denying them liberty. That's pretty conservative.

I don't know what the final answer is. Knowing about what happened is what's important. Some of us are going to learn from it. Some of us aren't.
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Old 06-27-2011, 08:39 AM
 
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I can't think of anything more of a right wing cause as compensating someone for denying them liberty. That's pretty conservative.

I don't know what the final answer is. Knowing about what happened is what's important. Some of us are going to learn from it. Some of us aren't.
I don't see it as something that is "conservative vs. liberal!." It is a human rights issue.

I believe the Chinese government, who are not known for their progressive stance on human rights, would probably find that program a reasonable approach to population control.

China: Authorities Plan To Sterilise 10,000 People To Ensure They Meet Family Planning Targets | World News | Sky News
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:44 PM
 
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Well , I'll likely be chewed for this , but I don't care. I agree , sterilization can be an effective means of population control , provided it's performed voluntarily , following reeducation of the participants. Forcing it upon 90% of the population is overkill , the remainder (addicts , welfare parents in perpetuity , emotionally excessive violent persons , et al.) should be forced to undergo the procedure. IMO , it would help humanity in the long run , however , extensive oversight , checks/balances , and a process reliant on complete logic would need to be in place to ensure no personal vices or grudges are implemented. This may seem archaic , but what other options exist , short of colonising Luna , which will likely not occur for at least 300 years , provided H.Sapiens still exists.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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This is veering off the local topic into a "Great Debates" discussion on sterilization in general, but I know of one program (not here, not that long ago), where a (female, if it matters) doctor was offering voluntary sterilizations to welfare women and paying them for it (again, at THEIR choice) and she was still generally raked over the coals as another H#tl#r. Sorry, but if someone knows they won't be a good mother, why not do everything you can to help them not be one?
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