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Old 08-13-2011, 06:08 AM
 
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With the stir in Burlington, NC and Ga. over confederate monuments. What is your take on it.
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Old 08-13-2011, 07:13 AM
 
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You mean the one that got knocked over in Reidsville?
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Old 08-13-2011, 07:35 AM
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You cannot change history. Those monuments were put up to honor soldiers that were near and dear to the people's hearts. Only a fool would not understand that.

When you show me the first slave owner or slave seller's monument, I will help you come knock that down.
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:23 AM
 
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When you show me the first slave owner or slave seller's monument, I will help you come knock that down.
Quite a few of those monuments including the one in front of the courthouse in my hometown are of slave owners, so I hope you got your sledgehammer ready. Then again I hope you're fine with taking down any statues of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson as well.
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Old 08-13-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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Yes Reidsville. Sorry. I do find that these have been a part of a history that shaped this country. Then only when pointed out they become an issue. Like the grave site in Ga. It took a person of color being bury that had ties to a group that opposes such things to bring it to light. It is not even in the same section. And many other person of color have been buried before him with no problem. As the statue in Reidsville. It has been there 100 years. I guess in a hundred or so we will take down the Vietnam Memorial. Because of the war that it is associated with. Or Custer's last stand which are for men who on orders were to drive out America Indians from the land. And maybe the new Martian Luther King Memorial with represents a man who lead to rights of people of color. Which one day someone or group may find objection to. I think that the Memorial at Arlington for the Confederate Soldiers bury there sums it up.
Dedicated in 1914, one of the monument's inscriptions reads:

"Not for fame or reward -
Not for place or for rank -
Not lured by ambition -
Or goaded by necessity -
But in simple -
Obedience to duty -
As they understood it
These men suffered all -
Sacrificed All -
Dared all - And Died"
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:09 PM
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Quite a few of those monuments including the one in front of the courthouse in my hometown are of slave owners, so I hope you got your sledgehammer ready. Then again I hope you're fine with taking down any statues of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson as well.
You hardly ever post anything cogent, and once again, you have continued that trend.

Talking about a monument honoring one for being a slave owner. Are you really that dense? Again, you can't change history. If slave owners were honored for their fighting or military leadership, that is a different them. Yeah, I did not spell it out, guess I did not think I needed to. Geez!
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Old 08-13-2011, 03:32 PM
 
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Looks like the war all over. I can not really see which side either are on if not the same side. I wanted to see what people think of these political correctness that is affecting the historical value of our state. Not to repair or replace a statue that has historical importance. Defending the statue that has been in place for years. This is not a celebration or honoring a slave owner for owning slaves. Fact is many of the founding fathers did. Look at last names in the US. May took the last names of their owners. This is about a historical marker in the state.
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Old 08-13-2011, 04:22 PM
 
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You hardly ever post anything cogent, and once again, you have continued that trend.
Sorry I wasn't clear enough but there's no need to resort to insults.




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Looks like the war all over. I can not really see which side either are on if not the same side. I wanted to see what people think of these political correctness that is affecting the historical value of our state. Not to repair or replace a statue that has historical importance.

It's not so much political correctness as it is a legal issue over ownership. The town owns the land but the Daughters of Confederacy own the statue, and they don't want to fix or replace it. And more likely than not nobody's got the money for it.

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Old 08-13-2011, 06:28 PM
 
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It's not so much political correctness as it is a legal issue over ownership. The town owns the land but the Daughters of Confederacy own the statue, and they don't want to fix or replace it. And more likely than not nobody's got the money for it.
Burlington Times News

Call it what you will. The town back in the day. Accepted it. Donated the land. They worked around it over the years. Maintaining the streets. Never once did they say maybe this might be better somewhere else. Now they back peddle.

Mayor James Festerman said the council is currently researching other alternatives for the intersection.

"We anticipate putting in the roundabout something that will be a source of identification for the city's downtown area for future generations," Festerman said in the press release. "We will be asking for community input to erect a landmark for all of our citizens and visitors to enjoy."


This is the biggest political pile of BS there has been in awhile. Fact is the town is using this to cover the pressure from civil rights groups. Do you think the same rules would apply if it was a statue of something else? Be honest!! Not!!

Fact one: Look at the second picture in the frame. Downtown Reidsville Corporation

Fact two: Review the downtown plan. Note the Northern boundary marker.

Fact three: 100 plus years. Never been removed or suggested in the city business plan.

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Old 08-13-2011, 07:29 PM
 
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I say the leadership in Reidsville should be commended. They recognize that some members of their community would be offended by memorials to a cause that sought to preserve slavery. I can understand why they would feel that way, and I think that memorializing a long-past war is not worth the bad feelings it may invoke among our African-American neighbors.
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