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Old 08-16-2012, 04:25 PM
 
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What I found truly interesting is, in order to become a member of the KKK one has to be a christian. One of a myriad of reasons I do not do religion.
Because a very small number of Christians agree with/join a fringe group like the KKK? That doesn't make sense as any kind of reason to "not do religion". If that is a valid reason, then there are similarly insignificant reasons not to do anything.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:29 PM
 
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Bottom line...the confederate flag offends a large percentage of the population, therefore it is very controversial and often derided. It's too bad such a historical icon of the South was tainted by hate groups, because I think otherwise it might not be seen in such a negative light. But the fact remains...it's devisive and controversial.

I do agree that it may never fully go away.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Apex, NC
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I know that concensus was to let the thread die, but it is still on the first page so I will offer this analogy:


Are all Muslims hate-filled killers of Westerners and/or Christians?

If you answer "No, of course not", is that also your answer to this question:

Is everyone that displays a Confederate flag (of any type) a hate-filled racist?


Symbols, such as flags, can evoke strong thoughts and emotions in the viewer; but they are your thoughts and emotions. Don't ascribe them to, or project them onto, the displayer of that symbol without knowing the displayer's intent - that is the very definition of prejudice.
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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I know that concensus was to let the thread die, but it is still on the first page so I will offer this analogy:


Are all Muslims hate-filled killers of Westerners and/or Christians?

If you answer "No, of course not", is that also your answer to this question:

Is everyone that displays a Confederate flag (of any type) a hate-filled racist?


Symbols, such as flags, can evoke strong thoughts and emotions in the viewer; but they are your thoughts and emotions. Don't ascribe them to, or project them onto, the displayer of that symbol without knowing the displayer's intent - that is the very definition of prejudice.
Very well said.
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Old 08-17-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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I know that concensus was to let the thread die, but it is still on the first page so I will offer this analogy:


Are all Muslims hate-filled killers of Westerners and/or Christians?

If you answer "No, of course not", is that also your answer to this question:

Is everyone that displays a Confederate flag (of any type) a hate-filled racist?


Symbols, such as flags, can evoke strong thoughts and emotions in the viewer; but they are your thoughts and emotions. Don't ascribe them to, or project them onto, the displayer of that symbol without knowing the displayer's intent - that is the very definition of prejudice.


Thanks
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Orange County, N.C.
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Because a very small number of Christians agree with/join a fringe group like the KKK? That doesn't make sense as any kind of reason to "not do religion". If that is a valid reason, then there are similarly insignificant reasons not to do anything.

Cherry picking my quote, I see. I wrote " one of a myriad " , if you have a dictionary, look the word up, please.
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Old 08-18-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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Cherry picking my quote, I see. I wrote " one of a myriad " , if you have a dictionary, look the word up, please.
Is rudeness a staple of atheism?

Whether it is listed as the main reason or "one of a myriad" it still doesn't make sense, that's why I picked it out. I see you had no defense for it other than to try and offend my intelligence.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:11 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Anyway, during the "hey-day" of the KKK? It was the AMERICAN flag that was their standard.
Hmmmmm.... That sounds a lot like a group decrying that they are the "real" Americans.....where might have I heard that term recently??? Hmmmmmm.....
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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I know that concensus was to let the thread die, but it is still on the first page so I will offer this analogy:


Are all Muslims hate-filled killers of Westerners and/or Christians?

If you answer "No, of course not", is that also your answer to this question:

Is everyone that displays a Confederate flag (of any type) a hate-filled racist?


Symbols, such as flags, can evoke strong thoughts and emotions in the viewer; but they are your thoughts and emotions. Don't ascribe them to, or project them onto, the displayer of that symbol without knowing the displayer's intent - that is the very definition of prejudice.
A guess Jews should maintain calm if seeing a swatiska being publicly displayed on a front yard, etc. The sight of a confederate flag evokes negative emotions for most African Americans...that's not prejudice.

If you're not the emotional viewer, you have no right to qualify or measure how the hell someone is supposed to feel.
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Old 08-21-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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A guess Jews should maintain calm if seeing a swatiska being publicly displayed on a front yard, etc. The sight of a confederate flag evokes negative emotions for most African Americans...that's not prejudice.

If you're not the emotional viewer, you have no right to qualify or measure how the hell someone is supposed to feel.
I agree that you can't tell people what should and should not offend them, but you also can't cater to every opinion of what is/isn't offensive. Some people are offended by public affection, but it probably won't be outlawed anytime soon. Some people are offended by a black president, but he remains in office. Some people are offended by the American Family Association, but they are allowed to exist. I guess it's all about freedom of expression.

It's very hard to define what is offensive because every individual has his or her own idea.
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