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They are definitely a blight on any area and attract exactly the type of folks who should not use them. In Hendersonville, they have been booted out of the City limits. Geesh... now they are going to infiltrate into the County(ies). Thanks a bunch City Council.
They are definitely a blight on any area and attract exactly the type of folks who should not use them. In Hendersonville, they have been booted out of the City limits. Geesh... now they are going to infiltrate into the County(ies). Thanks a bunch City Council.
Anyone that opens up a new parlor now is. . . Well I don't know. Very smart or otherwise.
They are definitely a blight on any area and attract exactly the type of folks who should not use them. In Hendersonville, they have been booted out of the City limits. Geesh... now they are going to infiltrate into the County(ies). Thanks a bunch City Council.
I think it is a shame that the government is trying to play nanny and take out these business, when they should be trying to attract business in the state. People are adults and can make their own decisions on how to spend their money. For the life of me, I don't understand why people in this state (and the country as a whole) are constantly always trying to legislate morality. I go to other places like Germany and they have casinos and the society isn't falling apart.
I never saw them as a blight as they usually are in what was a vacant building or set up in around adult book stores.
I even seen them set up in what was a Block buster video store.
City coffers are what really loose, no collection of taxes fees, and permits.
A lot of cities charge $2,000 for location and $2,500 per machine.
I think it is a shame that the government is trying to play nanny and take out these business, when they should be trying to attract business in the state. People are adults and can make their own decisions on how to spend their money. For the life of me, I don't understand why people in this state (and the country as a whole) are constantly always trying to legislate morality. I go to other places like Germany and they have casinos and the society isn't falling apart.
So the country should abandon all moral codes? I didn't spend hours on research but it it appears there are some tidbits I picked up.
First, while I haven't read the law I found this:
"Through these laws, it gets ensured that any gambling instinct is not stimulated beyond a limit that would have adverse consequence on the social aspect of the country"
One of the major complaints about sweepstakes is how they are made to stimulate the brain in order to get you to play more.
Have you seen similar games in Germany?
The US has more than ten times the number of casinos than Germany with 5-6 times the population. NC has a casino and we haven't fallen apart either.
So I think Germany and casinos are bad contrasts. And I haven't counted all the morality laws in the US but I bet there are more in Germany. Read up on the anti-Nazi laws. I don't like Nazis but I like my freedom of speech here in the US.
Twitter has even blocked access to neo-Nazi accounts in Germany at the request of the government.
So it seems stricter morality laws and less casinos does not mesh well with the sweepstakes issue.
I will agree that the laws here are arcane. Not being able to own a roulette wheel or a modern slot machine for personal use for example.
So the country should abandon all moral codes? I didn't spend hours on research but it it appears there are some tidbits I picked up.
First, while I haven't read the law I found this:
"Through these laws, it gets ensured that any gambling instinct is not stimulated beyond a limit that would have adverse consequence on the social aspect of the country"
One of the major complaints about sweepstakes is how they are made to stimulate the brain in order to get you to play more.
Have you seen similar games in Germany?
The US has more than ten times the number of casinos than Germany with 5-6 times the population. NC has a casino and we haven't fallen apart either.
So I think Germany and casinos are bad contrasts. And I haven't counted all the morality laws in the US but I bet there are more in Germany. Read up on the anti-Nazi laws. I don't like Nazis but I like my freedom of speech here in the US.
Twitter has even blocked access to neo-Nazi accounts in Germany at the request of the government.
So it seems stricter morality laws and less casinos does not mesh well with the sweepstakes issue.
I will agree that the laws here are arcane. Not being able to own a roulette wheel or a modern slot machine for personal use for example.
Couldn't we say the same thing about regular casinos or the lottery? We have more casinos here in the US, but most of those are either in Nevada or on Indian reservations. I'm saying sweepstakes, casinos, sports betting, etc. what is wrong with any of it being legal? I don't mind some regulation and even taxing it, but when the government intentionally tries to set road blocks to stop it because they feel it is "morally" wrong, in my opinion is wrong and a waste of a tax payer resources.
I don't agree with Germany's lack of free speech in terms of the Nazi stuff, but again they have a pretty dark history during that time and can see why they passed it for good or bad. A lot of the things we ban and outlaw in this country aren't based on history, but on "morality". Who am I to judge what an another adult is doing? If it isn't impacting me directly, then why do we care? Again the sweepstakes weren't bothering me or anyone in my family, so why do I care if people throw away their money.
Couldn't we say the same thing about regular casinos or the lottery? We have more casinos here in the US, but most of those are either in Nevada or on Indian reservations. I'm saying sweepstakes, casinos, sports betting, etc. what is wrong with any of it being legal? I don't mind some regulation and even taxing it, but when the government intentionally tries to set road blocks to stop it because they feel it is "morally" wrong, in my opinion is wrong and a waste of a tax payer resources.
I don't agree with Germany's lack of free speech in terms of the Nazi stuff, but again they have a pretty dark history during that time and can see why they passed it for good or bad. A lot of the things we ban and outlaw in this country aren't based on history, but on "morality". Who am I to judge what an another adult is doing? If it isn't impacting me directly, then why do we care? Again the sweepstakes weren't bothering me or anyone in my family, so why do I care if people throw away their money.
Yes we could say the same thing. As far as the bigger picture I really don't know. I think it's complicated and I always end up thinking about STDs when the libertarian type remarks come up. But seriously it's too big for me to digest for the time it would take.
Prohibition was a disaster but it did reduce consumption post prohibition versus pre. Might be a good result for a bad idea.
I guess I try to be conservative but also worry about slippery slopes. Libertarian philosophy might be good on paper but in practice I think the human race is a fail when it comes to knowing what's good for them.
We then increase government to deal with these ills which makes people depend more on government which increases government again.
I don't know how to stop it and get everyone to respect each other's rights without disrupting society as a whole. It isn't going to happen anytime soon considering how liberal we are right now.
Most morality code should go but gambling, prostitution and drugs are bigger issues than I can argue here.
Apparently it didn't cost Watauga County to shut down the 3 sweepstakes establishments. The Sheriff went out there and delivered the order himself.
I found this part of the article interesting:
Quote:
“We will look into morphing into whatever we need to be under the rule of law to continue our business,” said Chase Brooks, president of Internet Based Sweepstakes Operators, in a statement a few weeks ago.
Sounds like he thinks there's still an open loophole somewhere. I say just make it a taxable industry. I don't see how it's any different than the casino or the lottery.
Apparently it didn't cost Watauga County to shut down the 3 sweepstakes establishments. The Sheriff went out there and delivered the order himself.
I found this part of the article interesting:
Sounds like he thinks there's still an open loophole somewhere. I say just make it a taxable industry. I don't see how it's any different than the casino or the lottery.
No. They'd be open if there was a loophole. I'm suspicious of a few things like why I can't find much about these "industry spokesman" or "president of association". I'll give $1 to the person that finds their website.
I'm wary of anyone pushing something if I can't trust that person.
Answer me this. Do you believe this statement:
"whether it's the publishers clearinghouse, whether it's McDonald's Monopoly game, or Pepsi-Cola or Coca-Cola or other cap games"
Thanks for the link. As a newcomer to NC, i could not figure out why these places were in business. Based on the explanation, it seems like gambling to me.
North Carolina is one of the dumbest states in our country. How can you not take into account the tax benifits and employment in an economic downturn (we are still in a recession). Over 4800 hundred Americans are out of a job over night. How will these 4800 hundred displaced employees support there family Didnt the recession just hit YOU and now people are wishing it on others STUPID. Sweepstakes popped up right when people needed it the most. These business owners pay rent, supply jobs, and pay taxes. You can pay bills and use the internet. This decision is bias! PERIOD. tHESE Old farts do not understand the times. Do sweepstakes cause illnesses and kill like alcohol and cigs, no. These people paid the state for each machine, license, rent, payroll taxes. Most of these places have regular police protection so the ideal of it not being safe is false. Big mistake REPUBLICAN NC. These damn people annoy me. THEY ARE NOT FOR THE PEOPLE AND THEREFORE SHOULD OUT OF ANY POSITION THEY HOLD. If any disagree answer this question. Why you in the next man's pocket worrying how they spend their money, YET LACK WILL OR ABILITY TO HELP THE SAME PEOPLE WHO LIVES WILL BE AFFECTED.
One last retorical question, How would the people of NC feel if WALMART WAS DEEMED A MONOPOLY AND WAS SHUTDOWN. (because it is a Monopoly) just like Sweepstakes has some gambling aspects to it
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. How will these 4800 hundred displaced employees support there family
. You can pay bills and use the internet
PERIOD. tHESE Old farts do not understand the times
. Do sweepstakes cause illnesses and kill like alcohol and cigs, no. These people paid the state for each machine, license, rent, payroll taxes. Most of these places have regular police protection so the ideal of it not being safe is false. Big mistake REPUBLICAN NC. These damn people annoy me. THEY ARE NOT FOR THE PEOPLE AND THEREFORE SHOULD OUT OF ANY POSITION THEY HOLD. If any disagree answer this question. Why you in the next man's pocket worrying how they spend their money, YET LACK WILL OR ABILITY TO HELP THE SAME PEOPLE WHO LIVES WILL BE AFFECTED.
