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I don't talk to that many 4th graders. Of course the Triangle has great Universities, Durham and Chapel Hill are great. As far as the Hurricanes, I don't watch Hockey, most people in Raleigh don't seem to either considering the abysmal attendance going on there. This is the South. Not really a hockey paradise.
One trick pony? It was a national political convention, but if you want to downplay it as a one trick pony, cool. Raleigh would kill to host one. The State fair will have to do for now. I'd take the convention center in Charlotte with a light rail stop over the one in Raleigh. More people are visiting Charlotte for conventions than Raleigh. As far as racing, yes you're right, Charlotte wins.
Charlotte never had the corporate headquarters. Charlotte has benefited tremendously because of the airport. A major airline hub will generally do that. Those visitors to Raleigh will have to connect through Charlotte first.
DC is the National capital. Raleigh is not. All you proved is that the largest cities in those respective states happen to be capital cities. In North Carolina, that isn't the case.
"DC is the National capital. Raleigh is not."
Never said it was. You missed the point entirely apparently.
"All you proved is that the largest cities in those respective states happen to be capital cities. In North Carolina, that isn't the case"
Charlotte is the biggest city in NC the way Jacksonville is the biggest city in Florida, through annexing to a city limits twice Raleigh's diameter, whereas Raleigh has more numerous and larger suburbs along it's outer ring than Charlotte. Raleigh/Triangle is on pace to soon be the largest greater metro area in the state. Atlanta city limits is the same size as Raleigh don't forget, it's the greater metro that counts. Currently both Raleigh and Charlotte CSA are just over 2 million each with the Triangle growing at a faster clip than Metrolina. Combined Statistical Area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Those visitors to Raleigh will have to connect through Charlotte first. "
From the RDU International Airport homepage: "Fly to more than 40 non-stop destinations on one of about 400 daily flights from RDU."
One of these days a Charlatan poster will say something based on facts, suffice to say I won't be holding my breath
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Charlotte is the biggest city in NC the way Jacksonville is the biggest city in Florida, through annexing to a city limits twice Raleigh's diameter, whereas Raleigh has more numerous and larger suburbs along it's outer ring than Charlotte. Raleigh/Triangle is on pace to soon be the largest greater metro area in the state. Atlanta city limits is the same size as Raleigh don't forget, it's the greater metro that counts. Currently both Raleigh and Charlotte CSA are just over 2 million each with the Triangle growing at a faster clip than Metrolina.
Yawn, do you have this paragraph saved on copy/paste or something. Charlotte is the bigger metro, city, csa, any which way you look at it. More people live in and around Metrolina. Sorry that Cary is on point to pass up Raleigh, I don't know why all those New Yorkers prefer the suburbs. Raleigh can have a faster growth rate, when it comes to actual numbers, actual people moving, Charlotte comes out on top. A town of 100 people growing by two families would have a higher growth rate than Charlotte (and raleigh). Growth rates are nice cozy numbers to look at. The actual numbers tell the real truth, and the truth is Charlotte adds more people, consistently.
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and Charlotte would kill to be ranked the best city in the country, so what's your point again?
And yet more people continue to move to Charlotte than to Raleigh. Weren't you discussing deflection earlier, the above comment is a great example.
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Multiple non-stops a day to most major east coast cities from RDU, check Travelocity, I'll wait
You'll be waiting for a while. Guess which city is #2 for domestic travel from RDU? Yep, that would be Charlotte.
Yawn, do you have this paragraph saved on copy/paste or something. Charlotte is the bigger metro, city, csa, any which way you look at it. More people live in and around Metrolina. Sorry that Cary is on point to pass up Raleigh, I don't know why all those New Yorkers prefer the suburbs. Raleigh can have a faster growth rate, when it comes to actual numbers, actual people moving, Charlotte comes out on top. A town of 100 people growing by two families would have a higher growth rate than Charlotte (and raleigh). Growth rates are nice cozy numbers to look at. The actual numbers tell the real truth, and the truth is Charlotte adds more people, consistently.
And yet more people continue to move to Charlotte than to Raleigh. Weren't you discussing deflection earlier, the above comment is a great example.
You'll be waiting for a while. Guess which city is #2 for domestic travel from RDU? Yep, that would be Charlotte.
"The U.N. uses areas it calls “urban agglomerations,*” which measure the continuously built-up areas around central cities. It’s a different measure from the Metropolitan Statistical Area used by the U.S. Census Bureau"
Raleigh CSA, 2,075,000, growth rate 6.52%
Charlotte CSA, 2,442,000, growth rate 4.94%
"You'll be waiting for a while. Guess which city is #2 for domestic travel from RDU? Yep, that would be Charlotte."
so then wouldn't the opposite be true or nearly true? lol, you're funny I noticed you changed the topic, originally it was that all domestic out of RDU when through Charlotte, nice try From the RDU airport site: "Fly to more than 40 non-stop destinations on one of about 400 daily flights from RDU" I'll wait for you to change/modify the topic again, lol
lost as in never had it and never got it. You know, as in lost out. Charlotte folks seem to have gotten so desperate now their splitting hairs, what does that tell ya
Wait... Did you just claim Charlotte lost US Airways headquarters? There is literally zero corporate jobs here from US Air and there never has been. It was based in Crystal City Virginia for until around 2005 when it merged with America West and the HQ moved from Crystal to Tempe. Last year with the American merger, it was moved from Tempe to Dallas or Fort Worth or Arlington. Somewhere in the Metroplex.
US has corp positions in Pittsburgh after US largely abandoned the airport as a token to the huge loss in workforce at PA, but it's slowing be lost out.
CLT is like the 5th or 6th largest airline hub in the world and 3rd in the US behind Delta @ Atlanta & American @ Dallas.
CLT was always the most profitable hub for US and Kirby said ancouple quarters ago at a crew meeting that CLT was the most profitable amongst the hubs (NYC, PHL, LAX, DFW, MIA, DCA).
DCA was historically very high yielding. So I'm not sure how it's "splitting hairs" if you're claiming losing corporate jobs that we haven't had since Piedmont Airlines (if even then) decades ago.
It's not like the Duke-Progress merger where we lost Anything.
Wait... Did you just claim Charlotte lost US Airways headquarters? There is literally zero corporate jobs here from US Air and there never has been. It was based in Crystal City Virginia for until around 2005 when it merged with America West and the HQ moved from Crystal to Tempe. Last year with the American merger, it was moved from Tempe to Dallas or Fort Worth or Arlington. Somewhere in the Metroplex.
US has corp positions in Pittsburgh after US largely abandoned the airport as a token to the huge loss in workforce at PA, but it's slowing be lost out.
CLT is like the 5th or 6th largest airline hub in the world and 3rd in the US behind Delta @ Atlanta & American @ Dallas.
CLT was always the most profitable hub for US and Kirby said ancouple quarters ago at a crew meeting that CLT was the most profitable amongst the hubs (NYC, PHL, LAX, DFW, MIA, DCA).
DCA was historically very high yielding. So I'm not sure how it's "splitting hairs" if you're claiming losing corporate jobs that we haven't had since Piedmont Airlines (if even then) decades ago.
It's not like the Duke-Progress merger where we lost Anything.
Airline hub. Largest airline hub. With all those good schools in the triangle, don't they bus people from the hood to the higher performing schools? Someone needs critical thinking skills
Here's the list of largest airline hubs in the US before the American merger and back in 2012. US/American pulled Significantly further ahead of United at Houston after the merger.
And it's not going to be much different in rankig globally. American is the largest airline followed by United followed by Delta. And since the American market is so much larger than most other countries and we have deregulation, the rankings don't change that dramatically. There are many bilaterals, regulations, slot controls, huge density, high speed rail systems competing wit airlines, politics, etc. at a lot of other airports globally
El puente aero used to Be the busiest route in the world by Iberia Airlines between Madrid & Barcelona until AVE high speed rail gave it a run for its money. High speed rail in US is practically nonexistent. (it's not practical to take trains between Chicago & Dallas, Seattle & Boston, etc. like it is Madrid to Paris, Paris to London, Frankfurt to Rome)
I'm very very familiar with the airline industry. You can google all the Forbes list you want, I know the airline industry like the back of my hand
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The U.N. uses areas it calls “urban agglomerations,*” which measure the continuously built-up areas around central cities. It’s a different measure from the Metropolitan Statistical Area used by the U.S. Census Bureau"
Raleigh CSA, 2,075,000, growth rate 6.52%
Charlotte CSA, 2,442,000, growth rate 4.94%
Look at that, Charlotte again has more people. Even from the metric that you had to pull out of your a**
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so then wouldn't the opposite be true or nearly true? lol, you're funny I noticed you changed the topic, originally it was that all domestic out of RDU when through Charlotte, nice try
No, because Charlotte actually has multiple non-stop destinations. Therefore, those that have to connect through Charlotte in order to get to Durham don't come close to the amount of people coming through Charlotte going to other cities. Charlotte is #2 for RDU, because, well, there aren't as many options coming from Durham.
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