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Folks I'm in central CT now. Go to the Ct page and see all the garbage people are posting about NC saying there's no culture. People up here think culture's all about chasing a buck. Sadly Dems are slowing desroying this state.
Folks I'm in central CT now. Go to the Ct page and see all the garbage people are posting about NC saying there's no culture. People up here think culture's all about chasing a buck. Sadly Dems are slowing desroying this state.
The same thing was done to Charlotte by St Louis and Cincinnati recently. St Louis posters did it when Charlotte was chosen over STL for the DNC. Cincinnati did it when Chiquita announced that they would be relocating from Cincy to Charlotte. It's classic civic pride mixed in with a little fist-waving. IMO, they (folks in the Northeast) have a right to trash talk if that makes them feel better about their area (bless their little hearts ). In all honesty, I can't understand why an area so close to NYC and Boston would even care about this "little" loss.
Politicians don't create jobs, businesses do. If the positions are new to NC, what does it matter if they're newly created or moved from another location?
The base of taxpayers is increasing, either through transplants or new hires; houses/apartments/condos will be sold or rented to these people; they will be patronizing other businesses in the area, etc. - these are all upsides to this move, yet you choose to complain and make a political statement of it...
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How about that one? Any new manufacturing? Any new assembly?
Any good pay, low skill jobs to meet the need of the biggest unemployment segment?
This is the second time, this week, that I've read that.
Businesses don't create jobs to employ people - they employ people to produce a profitable product or service. Being Rational, you already knew that though...right?
what does it matter if they're newly created or moved from another location?
We don't live in a vacuum. We aren't an island unto ourselves.
It's better for the US that these jobs come here than go to Bangalore...
but is that really the limit or the standard that should be applied?
Look beyond the immediate.
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Businesses don't create jobs to employ people -
they employ people to produce a profitable product or service. ?
We don't live in a vacuum. We aren't an island unto ourselves.
It's better for the US that these jobs come here than go to Bangalore...
but is that really the limit or the standard that should be applied?
Look beyond the immediate.
No doubt. MetLife benefits greatly.
Did you have some larger point?
Well, what caused Metlife to relocate from New England/CA to NC?
If you want talk about how it can be better for the US as a whole, that's an entirely different discussion.
Could the US try the same thing to companies overseas that NC did to Metlife? They can.
Yes. Referring to the portion of your post that I quoted (not specifically to the MetLife move).
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We don't live in a vacuum. We aren't an island unto ourselves.
It's better for the US that these jobs come here than go to Bangalore...
but is that really the limit or the standard that should be applied?
In the context of this post being in NC forum where we're discussing the move to NC - my post stands. If we're going to discuss the move's effects on the entire U.S. job market, we should do so in the appropriate forum.
In the context of this post being in NC forum where we're discussing the move to NC - my post stands.
NC needs decent paying LOW LEVEL jobs for the unemployed who are already here.
Bringing more already employed people with more cars and with more kids to an area
with overcrowded and inadequate roads and schools is not a net positive for ANYONE.
Not the people who already live in NC and not even the people moving.
NC needs decent paying LOW LEVEL jobs for the unemployed who are already here.
Bringing more already employed people with more cars and with more kids to an area
with overcrowded and inadequate roads and schools is not a net positive for ANYONE.
Not the people who already live in NC and not even the people moving.
That's a ridiculous assumption.
Are the people in these 2600 new jobs sending all their money out of NC? Are they buying gas/groceries/clothes/etc outside of NC?
I'm pretty sure they will be paying taxes in NC (income/gas/property/etc).
They will be shopping at NC stores as well (those stores need employees, too)
This can create low level jobs
Maybe some of the ones that will be hired are currently in a low-level job which they will need to leave to start with Metlife.
This can create low level jobs
Don't underestimate the traffic problems that Charlotte and the Triangle are dealing with. I-485 eastbound (towards Ballantyne) is the worst commute in North Carolina and is the 31st worst commute in the Nation.
Quote: "(I-485) is too much of a stress, too much of a hassle," said John McLean, a Charlotte resident who goes out of his way to avoid the Interstate. Local leaders are aware of the problem. According to Rep. Becky Carney, a Charlotte Democrat and House Transportation Committee chair, "the No. 1 complaint we hear from citizens is congestion." 50 Worst Commutes: America's Highways to Hell - The Daily Beast
I-40 eastbound near Cary is the state's second worst commute and is the 47th worst commute in the Nation.
Quote: "You just get so stiff and tired and sore before you get to work," Wes Evans told The Citizen-Times in January of 2010, referring to the approximately two hours of daily driving added to daily commutes on the I-40. 50 Worst Commutes: America's Highways to Hell - The Daily Beast
IMO, Metlife picked the two worst locations in the state to add 2,600 jobs. Also, both of these areas have horrible mass transit options. I'm not sure if the Triangle has better locations to offer, but Charlotte certainly does. The University City area of Charlotte is currently widening I-85, building a 6-laned I-485, and the area is building a light rail line down the median of US-29. If you're going to drop 1,300 jobs on a suburban office market of Charlotte, University City is the place to do it (NOT Ballantyne). This is yet another example of development not following infrastructure. South Charlotte is way over-built for its roads and it seems like things are about to get worse.
A Californian must have written that article.
Good info though. Thanks for sharing.
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