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AC is wonderful now compared to before the casinos. Pre-casinos there were people living there trying to raise families on seasonal work & unemployment. The casinos brought stability. That was the purpose there. It worked. It served the purpose.
Is this some sort of twisted early April Fools Joke? If you think AC is wonderful now I'll just go ahead and stop trying to get blood from a stone and end my involvement in this thread. AC is one of the least desirable place to live in NJ and I say this as a person who loves NJ.
Any town or county that looks to AC as a model to emulate has already failed before they have even begun.
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Is this some sort of twisted early April Fools Joke? If you think AC is wonderful now I'll just go ahead and stop trying to get blood from a stone and end my involvement in this thread. AC is one of the least desirable place to live in NJ and I say this as a person who loves NJ.
Any town or county that looks to AC as a model to emulate has already failed before they have even begun.
Hon, I said wonderful in comparison to the situation pre-casino. Were you alive then?
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Just to reiterate, this thread is about the jobs, jobs, jobs, people trying to kill jobs. This is not about whether you like casinos. There is a casino thread on the Charlotte board. It's a regional thing. The state issue is the same fine folks who slashed education & unemployment sending a letter to the feds telling them to kill it.
If you don't understand the issue, think of it this way. . .how would you like it if legislators from elsewhere in the state tried to kill a project in your area.
Also, this is 1 casino, not a dozen or so, so comparisons to Atlantic City, Vegas, or Reno are inappropriate.
Whether people like Casinos and the quality of life the bring or don't bring has everything to do with it. Job Jobs Jobs at any expense by politicians shows lack of perspective. It's like the people who get all folksy and talk about the good old days of tobacco farming and all the kids it put through college.
I'm from NJ too. Atlantic city is a dump. I can't imagine any county in NC looking towards AC as something to strive for.
AC was a dump before the casinos. In SE Connecticut, the casinos there have helped to turn those communities around.
AC was a dump before the casinos. In SE Connecticut, the casinos there have helped to turn those communities around.
People who use the tired argument about the morality of casinos and how they breed criminalization haven't been to Foxwoods or Mohegan sun in Connecticut. Those casinos are in a less populated area (like the new casino would be), they are thriving and don't do any of the things these scare mongers say.
These people need to stop legislating w their religion...
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People who use the tired argument about the morality of casinos and how they breed criminalization haven't been to Foxwoods or Mohegan sun in Connecticut. Those casinos are in a less populated area (like the new casino would be), they are thriving and don't do any of the things these scare mongers say.
These people need to stop legislating w their religion...
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You hit the nail on the head, Jack.
This is a wonderful solution for this area. Locals are elated. This will suck up enough of the unemployed to make the area more attractive to retail which will attract more conventional businesses.
The Catawbas filed for recognition & were turned down by the legislature who are now using that to turn down the casino. One of the links in the other thread mentioned campaign contributions to some of these fine upstanding politicians from the Cherokees. It reminds me of the old line: Me thinks thou doth protest too much.
This is a wonderful solution for this area. Locals are elated. This will suck up enough of the unemployed to make the area more attractive to retail which will attract more conventional businesses.
The Catawbas filed for recognition & were turned down by the legislature who are now using that to turn down the casino. One of the links in the other thread mentioned campaign contributions to some of these fine upstanding politicians from the Cherokees. It reminds me of the old line: Me thinks thou doth protest too much.
I agree with you about the political funding and how the Cherokee's have been lining the pockets of these politicians...(the cherokee's don't want another casino in the area due to direct competition...)....the religious aspect of it comes into play subtlely also as a basis for not wanting a casino too....
I'm glad Cleveland County is pushing so hard for this....
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I agree with you about the political funding and how the Cherokee's have been lining the pockets of these politicians...(the cherokee's don't want another casino in the area due to direct competition...)....the religious aspect of it comes into play subtlely also as a basis for not wanting a casino too....
I'm glad Cleveland County is pushing so hard for this....
The religious aspect reminds me of a line that my mom used to use. . .hiding behind the skirts of the church. I know some very religious people in Kings Mountain who are thrilled because they know that this will help the whole area. They are putting religion aside.
I think that the pols in other areas are using the religion & morals argument because, really, who's going to back them if they say that they're in the Cherokees' pockets?
The religious aspect reminds me of a line that my mom used to use. . .hiding behind the skirts of the church. I know some very religious people in Kings Mountain who are thrilled because they know that this will help the whole area. They are putting religion aside.
I think that the pols in other areas are using the religion & morals argument because, really, who's going to back them if they say that they're in the Cherokees' pockets?
I'm not a real religious person, and religion has nothing to do with why I don't like casinos.
I don't like casinos because kids go without electricity, decent clothes and food because mommy likes playing the slots or daddy's gonna strike it rich at Texas hold 'em. I don't like 'em because heirlooms are hocked for another roll of the dice. I don't like 'em because old ladies get their purses snatched to fund 2 hours at the black jack table.
I've spent plenty of time in Gaston and Cleveland County, and I have a lot of relatives in those areas. I'd guess that it's not the locals that want a casino (by and large), but the transplants who want their AC in the south. My people don't want 'em. Those of us who went to Sherwood & Robinson Elementary, Grier Junior High, Ashbrook and Hunter Huss... those of us whose families built up the Schiele Museum and taught at Belmont Abbey... those of us whose families are in law enforcement or school administration... THOSE are the people I'm talking about. The people whose ancestors are buried in Gaston County soil going back 150+ years don't want this, so don't act like they're throwing a parade on main street, lol... 'cause they ain't.
It may create a few thousand dollar-an-hour type jobs, but casinos work because they keep most of the money that comes through the place. Casino business is not philanthropy. If you want to gamble, have a wednesday night poker game with friends... that's the way we gamble in the South.
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