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Update from yesterday's early voting. 144,613 citizens voted. I was one of them.
Voters 790,127
Turnout - 11.93%
Age 65+ - 345,080 = 43.67%
Age 50-64 - 264,521= 33.47%
Age 30-49 - 135,840 = 17.19%
Age 18-29 - 44,687 = 5.65%
Female - 425,972 = 53.91%
Male - 364,156 = 46.08%
DEM - 369,613 = 46.77%
GOP - 256,227 = 32.42%
LIB - 1,286 = 0.16%
UNA - 163,002 = 20.62%
White - 577,256 = 73.05%
Black - 186,384 = 23.58%
Other - 26,488 = 3.35%
Congressional District
District 1 - 60,242 <- Designated Black Majority
District 2 - 50,573 <- Competitive* (see below)
District 3 - 59,427
District 4 - 60,179
District 5 - 58,480
District 6 - 69,544
District 7 - 62,398 <- Competitive
District 8 - 45,039
District 9 - 65,040
District 10 - 66,628
District 11 - 77,728
District 12 - 46,101 <- Designated Black Majority
District 13 - 68,749
* District 2 is where Clay Aiken is attempting to dislodge the incumbent GOPer. It's looking pretty competitive there. If Aiken prevails, it will be a rare win for a new Democrat in the US House of Representative where the Democrats appear headed to historic losses.
In comparison, there is no Democrat on the ballot for District 9 which includes a big portion of Mecklenburg county. District 9 includes Tillis's hometown and there appears to have been a huge amount of voting taking place there yesterday. I voted in this district and had to wait in a fairly long line for about 1/2 hour around 4pm in order to vote.
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I feel the same way for the same reasons, including voting for them by omission by voting for a 3rd party.
I read an interesting piece on omission voting that it tends to work the opposite of how you think it's going to work. It would be better to vote for who you think is the lesser of two evils than a 3rd party candidate who would never win. We're a two party republic (whether we like it or not) and it's probably going to be that way for a while.
... It would be better to vote for who you think is the lesser of two evils than a 3rd party candidate who would never win. We're a two party republic (whether we like it or not) and it's probably going to be that way for a while.
Interesting. John McCain also said this on Charlotte TV yesterday morning when asked about the Libertarian candidate on the ballot in NC. One thing that unites the Democrats & Republicans is they don't want another party to divide up the "sheep" which they have already divided.
The United States Constitution makes absolutely no mention of political parties. It's a complete myth that we were founded or exist as a 2 party government. That was cooked up by partisans after the fact.
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Ahh so are you going with cronyism or extremism then?
I've already done the protest vote thing. Didn't like the end results. I vote for the candidate with the most chance of winning who will do the least damage. I've already stated this. Tillis has lead the pack in anti-female policies. The status quo is my legacy. When I left college jobs were still segregated by gender. Women earned even less than now than men doing the same job. Mr. Tillis would have us return to that & doesn't mind raising taxes on the people who can least afford it to give the wealthy a tax break while he's at it.
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Fortunately the state BOE kept the same data format which they used in 2012 so the program I wrote to pull the data would work with it. Here are the comparative early voting results (total) for 2012.
Voters - 2,824,380 (Early voting/absentee 2012)
Turnout = ~43%
Seniors 65 and up - 708,516 = 25%
Baby Boomers 50-64 - 865,705 = 30.6%
Gen X 30-49 - 833,048 = 29.5%
Youth 18-29 - 417,112 = 14.7%
Female - 1,576,255 = 55.8%
Male - 1,248,126 = 44,2%
DEM = 1,332,555 - 47.2%
GOP = 891,279 - 31.6%
LIB = 6,437 - 0.23%
UNA = 594,110 - 21%
White = 1,906,586 = 67.5%
Black = 767,302 = 27.2%
Other = 150,493 = 5.32%
So compared to 2012, the trend just based on a comparison of early voting, as much as some here won't like to hear it, isn't favoring Hagen. GOP turnout is higher, Youth is much much lower, Black turnout lower. General turnout is significantly lower.
I can only remember one former poster who went to such lengths to try to prove that he knew more than anyone else &, surprisingly enough, he too was always right in his mind.
I waited for my local weekly to publish data concerning candidates on our local ballots. I'll just throw out for good measure that Hagan is a native of Shelby.
^ I always appreciate the efforts of others to prove what they say or claim. I'm sorry you apparently don't feel the same way. For me, it's those who sit on their high horse, and make insults that make for a bad forum experience. This is all that I will say about it as the topic is about the Midterm Election in NC.
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^ I always appreciate the efforts of others to prove what they say or claim. I'm sorry you apparently don't feel the same way. For me, it's those who sit on their high horse, and make insults that make for a bad forum experience. This is all that I will say about it as the topic is about the Midterm Election in NC.
When you make snarky remarks about people's opinions you should be expecting some blowback.
I read an interesting piece on omission voting that it tends to work the opposite of how you think it's going to work. It would be better to vote for who you think is the lesser of two evils than a 3rd party candidate who would never win. We're a two party republic (whether we like it or not) and it's probably going to be that way for a while.
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Interesting. John McCain also said this on Charlotte TV yesterday morning when asked about the Libertarian candidate on the ballot in NC. One thing that unites the Democrats & Republicans is they don't want another party to divide up the "sheep" which they have already divided.
The United States Constitution makes absolutely no mention of political parties. It's a complete myth that we were founded or exist as a 2 party government. That was cooked up by partisans after the fact.
You're both right... of course. The core of the issue for me is how openly special interests are driving our representation. It's rubbed in our face with smear ad after smear ad telling us which Super PAC is responsible for the advertising. Lobbyists writing proposed legislation - in many cases with a crystal clear conflict of interest. It's frankly embarrassing.
In order for a 3rd party to become viable we need substantial political financing reform. As it stands today, most corporations/special interests hedge their bet by supporting BOTH parties monetarily. Of course they like only having to do this twice and love even better supporting an unopposed candidate. I don't feel "protest votes" will see any real impact until this is addressed... and neither Red or Blue want it changed. Sad.
[*] District 1 - 60,242 <- Designated Black Majority
You should mark District 3 as a "Designated White Majority", because when they divided up Eastern NC, that's essentially how they did it. Some towns are split right down the middle and I think in one case, even the two ends of the same street are in different districts, so hard did they try to segregate the races.
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Don't be so quick to judge based on party affiliation. The party one is registered with does not mean this is the party one votes for. A large # of Democrats in NC will vote for a Republican, for national races. Most notably the ones known as the Jessiecrats. It's much less likely that someone registered with the GOP will vote for a Democrat.
Actually "Jessiecrats" are more and more a relic of the past, when NC was predominately conservative Democrats. With each passing election, more and more of them die off, and the younger/newer conservatives are just registering Republican because they don't have that institutionalized history where everyone was a Democrat because this state in the 1950s was basically a one-party state. Not too many voters remain who were registered in the 1950s...
OTOH, a lot of Northern transplants register Republican when they arrive because they are "New England Republican", fiscally conservative but moderate or libertarian on social issues. Then they soon wise up that Southern Republicans are quite a different animal, and especially with reactionary Legislatures like we've seen the past couple of years, lots of those suburban "country club Republicans", especially those concerned about Education, aren't going to go near Tillis.
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