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Old 11-03-2014, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
I find it fascinating that changes made to early voting (where Democrats have been crying foul and lobbing charges of voter disenfranchisement and even racism) have actualy increased the early voting particiaption by 22%. That is a huge increase.

Reality rarely follows rhetoric. Kay Hagen is still repeating this nonsense. She should know better. (well, actually, she knows exactly what she is doing)
Cutting down Saturday and removing Sunday voting is a cut,I do not care if you like to use the partisan line of hours. The reality is to try to make it harder for people to get to vote. If you work more then one job to make ends meet then you can vote on the day you have off. Hours may mean nothing.
The attempt was to keep Democrats away from the polls and it failed.

 
Old 11-03-2014, 06:11 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Originally Posted by Boss View Post
Cutting down Saturday and removing Sunday voting is a cut,I do not care if you like to use the partisan line of hours. The reality is to try to make it harder for people to get to vote. If you work more then one job to make ends meet then you can vote on the day you have off. Hours may mean nothing.
The attempt was to keep Democrats away from the polls and it failed.
There's no controversy about this. One of the Republicans bragged about it in an interview when they did it. Since I'm using a smart phone I'm not going to waste data to hunt for the interview but it must be out there. I remember seeing it. I never early voted before but did this time because it is my opinion that Tillis & Berger legislated against blacks, women, & gays. But in this case they admitted that they legislated against Democrats.

I have to wonder which way district 10 will go. I was in Hickory yesterday. I saw some signs for MacQueen, the Democratic candidate. He's a teacher in Asheville.
 
Old 11-03-2014, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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1,154,968 Voted



47.6% Dem
.2% Lib
31.9% Rep
20.3% None


71.6% White
25% Black
3.4% Other


5.1% 18-29
13.7% 30-44
29.1% 45-59
52.2% 60+


54.2% Female
45% Male
.8% Unknown


74.2% Voted in 2010
25.8% Didn't vote in 2010
 
Old 11-03-2014, 06:54 AM
 
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..... The reality is to try to make it harder for people to get to vote......
Yet voting increased by 22%. The results speak for themselves.
 
Old 11-03-2014, 07:17 AM
 
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
Yet voting increased by 22%. The results speak for themselves.

Your cause and effect assumptions may be flawed.
 
Old 11-03-2014, 07:17 AM
 
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I have to wonder which way district 10 will go. ...
If you are talking about the US house, then McHenry, easily.

Stats from District 10:

- DEM = 41%
- REP = 37%
- UNA = 21%
- LIB - 1.8%

- White = 84%
- Black = 13%

- Female = 53%
- Male = 46%

In early voting, turnout was very high. It was 2nd highest in NC's 13 districts. #1 was Western NC district 11.
 
Old 11-03-2014, 07:19 AM
 
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Your cause and effect assumptions may be flawed.
I admit this could be the case.

On the other hand, if that is true, then any claim at all that early voting was made more difficult were completely destroyed by those outstanding early voting results. You can't have it both ways.
 
Old 11-03-2014, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Union County
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Yet voting increased by 22%. The results speak for themselves.
Unintended consequence - I assure you. Actually, you know that. The best chance for Tillis to win was lower turnout.

It appears we can continue to count on the apathetic youth vote (as far as early voting goes), but when woman and minorities are turning out at high rates... DOH!

The GOP has a serious demographics problem, that is only getting worse year after year.
 
Old 11-03-2014, 07:22 AM
 
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... The best chance for Tillis to win was [i]lower[/]i turnout.....
I don't know what Tillis has to do with what I said. I didn't vote for him so it doesn't matter to me if he wins or loses. This is the worry of partisans. I'm not one of them.
 
Old 11-03-2014, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Yet voting increased by 22%. The results speak for themselves.

You say things. But sometimes I wonder if you intentionally say things even you don't believe in.



Voter turnout is higher because of backlash. Black people (which I'm not and I do not intend to speak for black people) from what I understand feel targeted and feel like their access to voting is being hampered by Tillis. This upset this group and by extension other democrats. It really motivated me to vote this year and I didn't vote in 2010.

It doesn't matter if you believe or do not believe that the laws were to suppress certain groups, but some people feel that way and that's why these voter turnouts are the way they are.


If Hagan was so lousy.... Why has Tillis never really had a lead over Hagan or never opened a gap from Hagan like the Republicans have in other states? Wasn't Hagan the most vunerable democrat who voted with Obama 96% of the time. Isn't it true Hagan done nothing in congress?

Yet Tillis has failed to open any gap on the most vunerable democrat.



(It's funny how The state GOP is parroting Unemployment numbers when they are ALWAYS the first to scream "Real Unemploment is 60%!!!")
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