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REALLY??
Please... post the source of this interesting piece of information!
The disgusting part of this post is not the distortion... but the fact that whites are STILL trying to defend the WORST form of slavery known to man... the slavery that occurred right here.
Now why would you lump "whites" into one category? Statements like this are just as disgusting as any racist comment out there. I'm black and it embarrasses me to read these kinds of ignorant comments.
I can't figure out what makes you think that one form of slavery is any worse than another? One human being taking ownership of another is horrible, no matter what the reason. HISTORY LESSON: Slavery existed long before the African slave trade; the Jews were enslaved in Egypt thousands of years ago and you can even go further back to Mesopotamia, where slavery became an institution with the development of agriculture around 10,000 BC. Even today there are estimated to be anywhere from 12 million to 29 million slaves held around the world. The African slave trade was despicable, but let's not act like it was any worse than other slavery situations throughout history.
The confederate battle flags original meaning was in support of slavery states rights ext. But that is what it stood for 150 years ago..just as the word gay once meant happy or joyful..now it means homosexual..the rebel flags meaning now to most of those who display it has nothing to do with issues of the civil war..its simply a symbol of southern culture and peoples pride in being from the south..yes some hate groups like the klan have hijacked the symbol and tied it to hatred..but as for me a proud southerner who is not racist and thinks slavery was wrong and an attrosity I fly it simply as a symbol of southern pride as does the vast majority of others who fly it.im not proud of everything the south has stood for in the past especially slavery..but that does not mean Im not proud of my southern roots and way of life and that's the new meaning the flag represents to most southerners in modern times....
Many words and symbols in use now have a completely different meaning than they originally had..not just the word gay..look at the word "faggott' that once meant a bundle of firewood. And a 'hoe' was a garden tool..the word bastard once simply meant a person whose parents were not married when they were born..now bastard is a slur for *******. There are many other examples of a word or symbols meaning being different now than it originally was. The rebel flag is the same thing why is that so hard to comprehend???
As for comparing the rebel flag to the Nazi symbol..the pain and horror of world war 2 is much more recent with alot of people who experanced those horrors first hand are still alive ..but in another 100 years when world war 2 is just a part of history with no one around who was there if the Nazi symbol becomes simply a symbol of German heritage then I would see nothing wrong with it being displayed as such....there is no one alive now that was a slave...there is no one alive who owned slaves..no one alive now even has parents that were slaves or slave owners so how can the flag support slavery when slavery hasent existed in 150 years!!
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Yes. And I'm not responsible for their actions. Nor they for mine. Nor me for yours, etc.
No one is telling you to "be responsible for their actions." But if your ancestors owned slaves and you in 2015, wave a flag associated with the CSA, you're in some way, honouring them and their slave owning ways.
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As for comparing the rebel flag to the Nazi symbol..the pain and horror of world war 2 is much more recent with alot of people who experanced those horrors first hand are still alive ..but in another 100 years when world war 2 is just a part of history with no one around who was there if the Nazi symbol becomes simply a symbol of German heritage then I would see nothing wrong with it being displayed as such....there is no one alive now that was a slave...there is no one alive who owned slaves..no one alive now even has parents that were slaves or slave owners so how can the flag support slavery when slavery hasent existed in 150 years!!
My friend's great grandma is alive and in her 100s. Her father was born a slave. Y'all don't realise how recent it actually IS.
No one is telling you to "be responsible for their actions." But if your ancestors owned slaves and you in 2015, wave a flag associated with the CSA, you're in some way, honouring them and their slave owning ways.
I think you need to read my post prior to the one you cited:
"What about the terrorism and savagery carried out under Old Glory? For example, many native americans have the same feelings about the US flag as african americans do about the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Northern Virginia. No one in this country is completely innocent...why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
White supremacist groups have also co-opted the number 88...should Dale Earnhardt. Jr. change the number on his race car because of that? Or by keeping it, does he become a de facto white supremacist?
In any case, the talk about the flag is merely a smokescreen to keep the conversation off the real topic: gun control. The flag didn't kill anyone, and controlling flags won't solve the problem. Controlling guns will."
When you fly the US flag, you honor, in some way, our country's genocidal ways towards native americans, no?
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