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Old 05-12-2016, 12:41 AM
 
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North Carolina resident here.... the vast majority aren't concerned about the LGBT community as all.....it's the sexual predators posing as transgenders that concern us. Anyway this whole thing is ridiculous and making a huge stink. British tourists (of any orientation) are encouraged to visit and have a brilliant holiday!

Yes...let's deny rights or privileges to minorities on the chance that someone might abuse the law! Do you know how ignorant that sounds? It's like not having public restrooms at all because of the dangers that someone might get molested in them. People are going to break the law and you can't discriminate against people just in case the law might be misused. It will be and that's the time to act.


The UK issues travel warnings to Iran, Libya, and NC? It's a bit ridiculous to paint the entire state as antigay because of this. Travel warnings and bans to NC are just for show because it's in the news right now - there is no inherent danger for gay people traveling to NC or anywhere else in the US. People are not suddenly in danger in our state anymore than they were last year. This law will be overturned and life will be back to normal soon enough and people can stop putting us on their bad lists.
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:06 AM
 
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Yes...let's deny rights or privileges to minorities on the chance that someone might abuse the law! Do you know how ignorant that sounds? It's like not having public restrooms at all because of the dangers that someone might get molested in them. People are going to break the law and you can't discriminate against people just in case the law might be misused. It will be and that's the time to act.


The UK issues travel warnings to Iran, Libya, and NC? It's a bit ridiculous to paint the entire state as antigay because of this. Travel warnings and bans to NC are just for show because it's in the news right now - there is no inherent danger for gay people traveling to NC or anywhere else in the US. People are not suddenly in danger in our state anymore than they were last year. This law will be overturned and life will be back to normal soon enough and people can stop putting us on their bad lists.
Joe is onto something with this response! If the North Carolina republican-dominated legislature were dealing with the Sandy Hook shooting in the same way they dealt with the "so-called bathroom issue", their response might have been to cease funding elementary schools which would eliminate any chance of a re-occurrence. That's the kind of result you get with "bubba, good ol' boy thinking" that has dominated this state for far too long. It's time to get rid of the rural riff-raff like Moore and Berger and replace them with people who think in 21st century terms instead of the dark ages.
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Old 05-12-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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Of course, an LGBTQwhatever is more in danger in London than in Raleigh. Perhaps the Brits might direct their attention to that.

Violent crime in London soars by 22 per cent | Crime | News | London Evening Standard

And then there's Baltimore, whose mayor just suspended city travel to NC. Hm, let's see. Would our LGBTQwhatever be safer in Raleigh or in Baltimore?
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Old 05-12-2016, 07:48 PM
 
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Of course, an LGBTQwhatever is more in danger in London than in Raleigh. Perhaps the Brits might direct their attention to that.

Violent crime in London soars by 22 per cent | Crime | News | London Evening Standard

And then there's Baltimore, whose mayor just suspended city travel to NC. Hm, let's see. Would our LGBTQwhatever be safer in Raleigh or in Baltimore?
Cool, bring up other crap that doesn't pertain to this conversation. I wonder if bigots would have more fun here or in Mississippi?
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:33 PM
 
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Cool, bring up other crap that doesn't pertain to this conversation. I wonder if bigots would have more fun here or in Mississippi?
It certainly pertains to this conversation. LGBT people are in far more danger in London and Baltimore than North Carolina, yet Britain issued a specific advisory for NC. The reality, which I'm sure they understand, is that transgender visitors wouldn't even notice any effects from the law besides the news coverage.

It was purely a political statement.

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Old 05-13-2016, 05:56 AM
 
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Joe is onto something with this response! If the North Carolina republican-dominated legislature were dealing with the Sandy Hook shooting in the same way they dealt with the "so-called bathroom issue", their response might have been to cease funding elementary schools which would eliminate any chance of a re-occurrence. That's the kind of result you get with "bubba, good ol' boy thinking" that has dominated this state for far too long. It's time to get rid of the rural riff-raff like Moore and Berger and replace them with people who think in 21st century terms instead of the dark ages.
This is not very well thought out. Closing schools would be parallel to closing public bathrooms, which has not been suggested by anyone. Returning public bathrooms to their traditional use has nothing in common with closing anything, of course.

Speaking of the dark ages -- did they end when the moonbats from Charlotte went out of their way to stick a finger in the Legislature's eye? In other words, the issue here is simply a pissing contest between two groups of politicians, fueled by a feeding frenzy of desperate, dying newspapers such as Raleigh's News and Observer and low-grade TV "news."
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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It certainly pertains to this conversation. LGBT people are in far more danger in London and Baltimore than North Carolina, yet Britain issued a specific advisory for NC. The reality, which I'm sure they understand, is that transgender visitors wouldn't even notice any effects from the law besides the news coverage.

It was purely a political statement.
Why would the United Kingdom issue a Foreign travel advice for the United Kingdom?


Oh yeh...."political"
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Old 05-13-2016, 03:16 PM
 
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It certainly pertains to this conversation. LGBT people are in far more danger in London and Baltimore than North Carolina, yet Britain issued a specific advisory for NC. The reality, which I'm sure they understand, is that transgender visitors wouldn't even notice any effects from the law besides the news coverage.

It was purely a political statement.

Who cares, its still an embarrasing list to be on. All your comments come with an excuse when it actuality doesn't matter because the deed is done. Its embarrasing and North Carolinas reputation is going down the drain. Mississippi just announced they will be supporting NC with the lawsuit. Thats great company to be in, whos next? Alabama? Florida panhandle?

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Old 05-13-2016, 09:31 PM
 
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Why would the United Kingdom issue a Foreign travel advice for the United Kingdom?


Oh yeh...."political"
Have you looked at their travel advice for countries that arrest and kill homosexuals? If you go to any of the advisory pages for those countries, they don't even mention the threat of imprisonment or death to LGBT's. If you go to the USA page, they specifically call out North Carolina and Mississippi. How helpful are they actually trying to be to transgender people, if they aren't advising about actual threats, but instead obscure regional bathroom regulation that would be darn near imperceptible?

Purely political.
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Old 05-14-2016, 04:14 AM
 
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Have you looked at their travel advice for countries that arrest and kill homosexuals? If you go to any of the advisory pages for those countries, they don't even mention the threat of imprisonment or death to LGBT's. If you go to the USA page, they specifically call out North Carolina and Mississippi. How helpful are they actually trying to be to transgender people, if they aren't advising about actual threats, but instead obscure regional bathroom regulation that would be darn near imperceptible?

Purely political.
How about these quotes, taken from https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice ?

"Homosexuality is legal in Turkey. However, many parts of Turkey are socially conservative and public displays of affection may lead to unwelcome attention."

"Although homosexuality is not illegal under Egyptian law, homosexual acts in public are illegal and homosexuals have been convicted for breaching laws on public decency."

"On 11 December 2013, the Indian Supreme Court set aside a 2009 ruling of the Delhi High Court that decriminalised homosexuality. Although prosecutions of gay people are rare, conviction for engaging in a homosexual act could lead to a prison sentence."

"Homosexual behaviour, adultery and sex outside of marriage are illegal under Iranian law and can carry the death penalty."


These quotes clearly demonstrate that you don't know what you're talking about. Or are all those quotes "political" too?
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