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Old 04-27-2016, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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As expected, the NAACP and the ACLU will appeal the judge's ruling.

Court ruling doesn't end fight over voter ID law :: WRAL.com
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Old 04-27-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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As expected, the NAACP and the ACLU will appeal the judge's ruling.

Court ruling doesn't end fight over voter ID law :: WRAL.com
Interesting, ""I think we’re going to have to take an election cycle to really study it to know if it really does discriminate against older people or minorities or whether people adapt to it," McLennan said."

I wonder if they'll challenge the need to have an ID to purchase a firearm as well, another right being infringed by having to produce a government issued ID.
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:13 PM
 
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States who pass these type of voter laws also make getting a state issued ID very difficult in the requirements for the ID, the number of places that can issue an ID, their location (not on public transportation routes) and the lines that are always at these places.

In Oregon, if you are registered to vote, you get your ballot in the mail, a descriptive phamplet of the people and items on the ballot and all you have to do is fill it in and send it back within the time frame.

Republicans just want to make it difficult for everyone to vote, Democrats want 100% of the registered voters to vote.
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, CSA
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States who pass these type of voter laws also make getting a state issued ID very difficult in the requirements for the ID, the number of places that can issue an ID, their location (not on public transportation routes) and the lines that are always at these places.

In Oregon, if you are registered to vote, you get your ballot in the mail, a descriptive phamplet of the people and items on the ballot and all you have to do is fill it in and send it back within the time frame.

Republicans just want to make it difficult for everyone to vote, Democrats want 100% of the registered voters to vote.
Nonsense.
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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When is the last time you were in NC? In fact, there have been news articles with specific stories of people who had an enormously hard time getting their "free" ID, because it requires very specific documents which a lot of people just don't have sitting around.

And some photo IDs that are perfectly acceptable otherwise--like college IDs--have been deemed "unacceptable" by this legislature.
You vote every how many years? Seems like enough time to get the required paperwork in order to get ID. I mean really how hard is it to get ID? Can't figure it out maybe you shouldn't vote.
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Old 04-30-2016, 01:28 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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You vote every how many years? Seems like enough time to get the required paperwork in order to get ID. I mean really how hard is it to get ID? Can't figure it out maybe you shouldn't vote.
There are elderly people who never had a birth certificate. What's to figure out? These people exist but their birth was never recorded. An older family member vouched for them to get a drivers license &/or to marry. If you can't figure out that there are people who have valid problems coming up with the proof then maybe you should stop & think.
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Old 04-30-2016, 09:47 AM
 
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From The Brennan Center for Justice

"The 11 percent of eligible voters who lack the required photo ID must travel to a designated government office to obtain one. Yet many citizens will have trouble making this trip. In the 10 states with restrictive voter ID laws:

Nearly 500,000 eligible voters do not have access to a vehicle and live more than 10 miles from the nearest state ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. Many of them live in rural areas with dwindling public transportation options.
More than 10 million eligible voters live more than 10 miles from their nearest state ID-issuing office open more than two days a week.
1.2 million eligible black voters and 500,000 eligible Hispanic voters live more than 10 miles from their nearest ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. People of color are more likely to be disenfranchised by these laws since they are less likely to have photo ID than the general population.
Many ID-issuing offices maintain limited business hours. For example, the office in Sauk City, Wisconsin is open only on the fifth Wednesday of any month. But only four months in 2012 — February, May, August, and October — have five Wednesdays. In other states — Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas — many part-time ID-issuing offices are in the rural regions with the highest concentrations of people of color and people in poverty.
More than 1 million eligible voters in these states fall below the federal poverty line and live more than 10 miles from their nearest ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. These voters may be particularly affected by the significant costs of the documentation required to obtain a photo ID. Birth certificates can cost between $8 and $25. Marriage licenses, required for married women whose birth certificates include a maiden name, can cost between $8 and $20. By comparison, the notorious poll tax — outlawed during the civil rights era — cost $10.64 in current dollars."

The Challenge of Obtaining Voter Identification | Brennan Center for Justice
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Old 04-30-2016, 03:12 PM
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Does anyone know an actual person without an ID?
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Old 04-30-2016, 03:41 PM
 
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Does anyone know an actual person without an ID?
My favorite aunt died 2 years ago without any official ID. She had no birth certificate. She had given up her drivers license. She was born at home in 1925 & her birth was never reported.
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Old 05-01-2016, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, NC
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There's been plenty of time since the concept of Voter ID became an issue and people could have been working on getting the doc's or whatever is needed together to obtain their ID. But no, it seems people sat on their butts and did nothing but complain.

Enough of this "woe is me" crap and let's get it done.
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