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You just need visionary leaders and education professionals who are dedicated and passionate about education, and who have the authority to make changes without having to worry about ignorant legislators meddling in their profession.
I agree. The less public control of education, the better.
If charter schools got a larger role, then they would have the funding to pay better and provide better benefits, creating real competition and choices for the teachers.
Charter schools are in business to make a profit. You don't see Walmart paying $15 an hour and you won't see Charter Schools paying anywhere near where the state is paying now with benefits regardless of how many or how big Charter schools get.
The only way teachers will get additional money is when the supply of teachers is inadequate to fill the demand for a few years. If you remember there was a BSRN shortage after hospitals started replacing 4 year RN's with 1 year RN's and nursing schools closed. The demand for a 4 year RN was very high and their salaries skyrocketed. Same will happen for teachers, especially if NC has their way with the benefits. The number of students going into teaching will be on a level with the number of students majoring in the classics, LOL!
Most of us work for businesses that operate on a for-profit basis and make good money. It's because of competition. If schools were judged and funded based on their performance, then they would pay more for the best and brightest and for teachers in less common subjects.
Wasn't it just a few years ago that our intrepid governor was decrying those "liberal arts majors" who ended up working in Starbucks as baristas, while having mountains of student debt? He used the example of someone with a degree in philosophy for that one! He kept saying that students should major in areas that are well-paying.
Perhaps the students (especially education majors) listened to him and decided that a teaching job in North Carolina is a cheap-sh*t job with no future. "Now what should I major in?" "Be a high school math teacher who starts his career at $31,000 with pretty crappy benefits that I have to pay for, and now will soon go away", "or go for investment banking where I can start for $90,000 and great benefits with a chance for a super year-end bonus" What would Pat do? WWPD
Those words "it's all for the children" ring pretty hollow in this day and age. That might have worked as a "mantra" when 99% of teachers were old maid spinsters who lived just above the poverty level. Nowadays, most teachers are married with their own families. Those families want more than austerity as a lifestyle in this day and age. Leaders decry the lack of quality teachers in inner city schools, but refuse to offer any incentive pay to keep them working there. Like most areas in life, you get what you pay for! When a kid can brag that his drug-dealer dad makes way more money than the schoolteacher dad a few doors down, that's not exactly a ringing endorsement for a Hidden Valley ghetto kid to go into education.
For anyone seriously interested in education as a career, North Carolina is a state you move away from, to get a better-paying job!
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Wasn't it just a few years ago that our intrepid governor was decrying those "liberal arts majors" who ended up working in Starbucks as baristas, while having mountains of student debt? He used the example of someone with a degree in philosophy for that one! He kept saying that students should major in areas that are well-paying.
Perhaps the students (especially education majors) listened to him and decided that a teaching job in North Carolina is a cheap-sh*t job with no future. "Now what should I major in?" "Be a high school math teacher who starts his career at $31,000 with pretty crappy benefits that I have to pay for, and now will soon go away", "or go for investment banking where I can start for $90,000 and great benefits with a chance for a super year-end bonus" What would Pat do? WWPD
Those words "it's all for the children" ring pretty hollow in this day and age. That might have worked as a "mantra" when 99% of teachers were old maid spinsters who lived just above the poverty level. Nowadays, most teachers are married with their own families. Those families want more than austerity as a lifestyle in this day and age. Leaders decry the lack of quality teachers in inner city schools, but refuse to offer any incentive pay to keep them working there. Like most areas in life, you get what you pay for! When a kid can brag that his drug-dealer dad makes way more money than the schoolteacher dad a few doors down, that's not exactly a ringing endorsement for a Hidden Valley ghetto kid to go into education.
For anyone seriously interested in education as a career, North Carolina is a state you move away from, to get a better-paying job!
Hard to believe but they want to eliminate state-paid health retirement benefits for teachers and state employees who are hired after January 1, 2016. That's right, let's make it harder to recruit teachers in a state that ranks 41 out of 50 for teacher pay.
It has been proven over and over that it is not sustainable to keep paying people who no longer work, whether it be in cash or benefits. Most private employers do not keep paying ex-employees anymore and there is a good reason for that. The costs continue to rise and making the payments simply becomes too expensive.
It has been proven over and over that it is not sustainable to keep paying people who no longer work, whether it be in cash or benefits. Most private employers do not keep paying ex-employees anymore and there is a good reason for that. The costs continue to rise and making the payments simply becomes too expensive.
It's a no brainer to end that outdated practice.
With your statement in mind, I guess you're all for ending social security. Why pay for people who can't work. I guess when the cost of your benefits exceed what you've paid into the system, (typically after about a year and a half of SS payments) you'll happily send those checks back! Oh, and taking your philosophy one step further, I guess we can stop paying Medicare for all of those old, sick people whose costs continue to rise and for many of us, making the payments is simply becoming too expensive! Grind "grandma" into premium dogfood for the one percenters! Yeah, that's the GOP and tea-bagger thinking!
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Oh, and taking your philosophy one step further, I guess we can stop paying Medicare for all of those old, sick people whose costs continue to rise and for many of us, making the payments is simply becoming too expensive! Grind "grandma" into premium dogfood for the one percenters! Yeah, that's the GOP and tea-bagger thinking! 
