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the reality is you are racist if you don't think black people are capable of obtaining a voter id. this is referred to as 'the soft bigotry of low expectations'. thousands of black people have obained photo id so obviously it can be done.
and you can't logically explain how voter fraud can be avoided if no photo id is required. that means you are ok with voter fraud occuring as long as Democrat votes are maximized. i and GOP look at this in terms of legality and ensuring validity of elections, you are looking at it terms of how do we maximize Democrat party votes.
linking to leftwing sources like pbs and the nation doesn't help buttress your case.
the ironic thing is the Democrat judeges used the racist history of NC, which is actually the racist history of the Democrat party, because the Democrats owned the south in its racist heyday, to smear the GOP as racist, for a sensible requirement a voter identify himself , to prevent voter fraud.
there are black people who vote GOP, and they are disenfranchised if voter fraud swings the election, along with every other GOP voter. it seems like you and Democrats have an obligation to explain how you will prevent voter fraud if there is no photo ID. no such explaination will come and you guys even deny voter fraud exists. in my view, this is how a criminal mind thinks.
the killer who killed 4 people at the mall in Washingston state was an illegal immigrant who had voted 3 times in the past. it seems likely he took advantage of lax voter id laws. Washington Mall Shooter Illegally Voted | LifeZette it is not racist for the GOP this loser didn't have the right to vote in our elections and that he should been required to show photo ID to vote.
Left wing is a trial brief of exact quote? So what isn't left wing?
I also love when conservatives bring up the old days of democrats and republicans like the most basically educated person doesn't understand the switch in political affiliation in the late 1800's and early 1900's. You have tired old arguments and use the same hot takes as everyone else.
where is this quote. don't link to a leftwing publication who mentions the quote but does not provide the quote. the first judge who looked at the law never mentioned this racist quote by the GOP in court.
so what you are saying is the NC GOP declared in public court they are racist and the reason they support a voter ID law is because they are racist. do you really think that sounds plausible? any GOP knows Democrats want to paint us as racist, this is your main tactic. i don't think the GOP has a suicide wish.
i think the main reason these courts knocked down the laws was to stoke racial animosity to get black americans out to vote. you had courts strike down simimlar voter laws in other states at the same time, and it apepars to be at the diirection of Obama's department of justice.
how do you prevent voter fraud if there is o photo ID requirement? You have no solution to it which eans you must be ok with voter fraud or deny voter fraud exists. it it makes no sense to describe voter id as racist if there is a valid non-racist reason for voter id, and there is no viable alternative way of prevent voter fraud.
where is this quote. don't link to a leftwing publication who mentions the quote but does not provide the quote.
so what you are saying is the NC GOP declared in public court they are racist and the reason they support a voter ID law is because they are racist. do you really think that sounds plausible?
i think the main reason these courts knocked down the laws was to stoke racial animosity to get black americans out to vote. you had courts strike down simimlar voter laws in other states at the same time, and it apepars to be at the diirection of Obama's department of justice.
It isn't PBS its an image hosting site. 4th cirucit court of appeals on a federal level knocked the law down to get people out to vote? Isn't that the point?
The State then elaborated
on its justification, explaining that “[c]ounties with Sunday
voting in 2014 were disproportionately black” and
“disproportionately Democratic.” J.A. 22348-49. In response,
SL 2013-381 did away with one of the two days of Sunday voting.
The state of NC explictly said it was because of democratic and black voters, aka racist. So again go somewhere else with your soft bigotry.
well i agree with that, if one day is disportionlatey favorable for Democrat votes, how is it fair to the GOP? that is good day to exclude. if Monday is tradionally more balanced, makes sense to include a Monday than a Sunday. the reason Sunday is a big day for black votes is the black people get bused to the polls after church which is basically a violation of church and state. they are getting propaganddized at the church service and then bused to the polls.
moreever, most states don't have Sunday voting, and may states included blue states like NY don't even have early voting. NC has 10 days of early voting including weekend hours and one Sunday. you aren't calling NY racist though, because it doesn't fit your race baiting and smear artist narrative. you can't say black voters in NC are disenfrachised when they have 10 days of early voting with weekend options plus election day to vote.
if you think black people are too dumb to get a photo id, you are the racist. that is basically like saying black people can't figure out how to buy food.
well i agree with that, if one day is disportionlatey favorable for Democrat votes, how is it fair to the GOP? that is good day to exclude.
moreever, most states don't have Sunday voting, and may states included blue states like NY don't even have early voting. NC has 10 days of early voting including weekend hours and one Sunday. you aren't calling NY racist though, because it doesn't fit your race baiting and smear artist narrative.
if you think black people are too dumb to get a photo id, you are the racist. that is basically like saying black people can't figure out how to buy food.
so its okay if it hurts democrats but if it hurst republicans we must keep it? what is your argument here, they said that they wanted to do away with it because it didn't help them which is wrong. the nc gop also got smacked by the fed gov. on gerrymandering, and will on hb2 also. at what point does it take facts and history to show that its wrong and wont stand? i guess for most right wingers never because it never seems to stop.
no one was talking about ny, because that is their voting system. our system was setup a certain way, and to negate parts of our voting system because you dont like black people voting, thats wrong.
you support Sunday votig because it helps your party because black turnout is higher that day. so why it is wrong for GOP to oppose it for political reasons? it makes sense for the GOP to prefer a day when Democrat and Republican participation is equal. that is about fairness, not racism. you want to say it is about racism for political reasons, bc all you care about is Democrat power.
the NC GOP got smacked by liberal democrat jduges like you who make bogus arguments, such as there is no such thing as voter fraud and it is racist to require photo id.
if you are saying no sunday voting is racist, the it is racist regardless of the state. NC has one more Sunday voting day than NY and several blue states, and longer early voting period than many blue states, yet you are saying the GOP is racist but you won't say that about the Democrat states. you are a hypocrite.
everybody has 10 days plus Election day to vote in NC, and that includes one Sunday. to say blacks are disenfrachised is absurd and obvious racial fearmongering by Democrats, the historic party of slavery, segregation, racism, KKK, civil war, lynching, etc. a party that could not even be bothered to change its name despite its horrible racist history.
you support Sunday votig because it helps your party because black turnout is higher that day. so why it is wrong for GOP to oppose it for political reasons? it makes sense for the GOP to prefer a day when Democrat and Republican participation is equal. that is about fairness, not racism. you want to say it is about racism for political reasons, bc all you care about is Democrat power.
the NC GOP got smacked by liberal democrat jduges like you who make bogus arguments, such as there is no such thing as voter fraud and it is racist to require photo id.
if you are saying no sunday voting is racist, the it is racist regardless of the state. NC has one more Sunday voting day than NY and several blue states, and longer early voting period than many blue states, yet you are saying the GOP is racist but you won't say that about the Democrat states. you are a hypocrite.
everybody has 10 days plus Election day to vote in NC, and that includes one Sunday. to say blacks are disenfrachised is absurd and obvious racial fearmongering by Democrats, the historic party of slavery, segregation, racism, KKK, civil war, lynching, etc. a party that could not even be bothered to change its name despite its horrible racist history.
says the guy accusing the party of Lincoln of racism when he votes for the historic party of slavery, racism, segregation, KKK, etc. you are a smear artist who doesn't have facts on your side.
consider the history of the Democrat party and then ask yourself why they don't change the n ame of it, especially when majority of black voters vote Democrat. it is like asking black people to vote for a party named KKK. apartment complexes change names all the time so surely the Democrat party could have. it is so weird this party accuses the party that opposed them on slavery and segregation and lynching, etc of being racist. It is Orwellian.
the idea of Pat McCrory being a racist just doesn't jive when you see him speak. he is a very nice person. he is not riding with the KKK. he doesn't don the white hood after work. you make these crazy baseless accusations. it is similar to HIllary trying to call Trump a racist. it is not even remotely plausible.
i guarantee you if there was a day of the week that white Republican turnout was much higher than democrat turnout, democrats would try to remove that day from early voting. you would be saying Sunday voting disenfranchises black voters in that scenario. the reality is you use black people as a prop to get things convenient for your party ability to win elections.
if white republican turnout was much higher on Sundays than black democrat turnout you'd be complaining about seperation of church and state.
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says the guy accusing the party of Lincoln of racism when he votes for the historic party of slavery, racism, segregation, KKK, etc. you are a smear artist who doesn't have facts on your side.
consider the history of the Democrat party and then ask yourself why they don't change the n ame of it, especially when majority of black voters vote Democrat. it is like asking black people to vote for a party named KKK. apartment complexes change names all the time so surely the Democrat party could have. it is so weird this party accuses the party that opposed them on slavery and segregation and lynching, etc of being racist. It is Orwellian.
the idea of Pat McCrory being a racist just doesn't jive when you see him speak. he is a very nice person. he is not riding with the KKK. he doesn't don the white hood after work. you make these crazy baseless accusations. it is similar to HIllary trying to call Trump a racist. it is not even remotely plausible.
i guarantee you if there was a day of the week that white Republican turnout was much higher than democrat turnout, democrats would try to remove that day from early voting. you would be saying Sunday voting disenfranchises black voters in that scenario. the reality is you use black people as a prop to get things convenient for your party ability to win elections.
if white republican turnout was much higher on Sundays than black democrat turnout you'd be complaining about seperation of church and state.
The TOS says that you are allowed your opinion. However, you are not allowed to brow-beat us & call us names.
A GOP official bragged in an interview that the voter ID bill would cut down on Democratic votes. The GOP asked for voting records & made cuts aimed at having an effect on blacks & Democrats in general . Therefore the court threw out the voter ID. It doesn't effect you. You don't live in NC.
It's not only necessarily that the left or right think it will be difficult for African Americans to GET IDs (money transportation where-with-all) although definitely many people think that way based on online comments, it's also that even when they have the ID, it will be purposefully (falsely) rejected as questionable or counterfeit. Did you know that if you vote early right now with the stay, there is the possibility of "watcher" walking up to you and contesting your legitimacy- then your vote is put in a different pile and not counted till determined to be legit. These are all tactics to interfere with the vote.
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its an image hosting site. 4th cirucit court of appeals on a federal level knocked the law down to get people out to vote? Isn't that the point? 
