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Old 12-07-2016, 10:24 AM
 
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I have cousins who haven't been brainwashed at their university. The tide is turning
Congrats?

 
Old 12-07-2016, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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I have cousins who haven't been brainwashed at their university. The tide is turning


You have cousins who haven't been brainwashed at uni, huh?

What a great statistical piece of evidence to prove your point
 
Old 12-08-2016, 02:19 AM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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Bear in mind, to people saying NC is a red state... Trump won by 4% here. A solid margin, but how did he do in the rest of the south?

He won by a 30% margin in Tennessee, Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky... 40% in West Virginia (wow)

15% in neighboring South Carolina, and many of the great plains states.

That's what a real red state looks like. Huge insurmountable margins. 4% is a tiny blip in comparison. Considering swing states often swing 12 points back and forth from election to election, that's well within that range. Can we dispense with the idea that NC is a red state yet? Clearly it is very different from these other states.

Bush won Florida by 5% in 2004, and it went right back to being a swing state in 2008. Ohio and Iowa, states that voted for Obama by 3% in 2012 voted for Trump by 8%--twice NC's margin. That should give you some idea how volatile swing states actually are.
 
Old 12-09-2016, 02:03 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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North Carolina being a solidly gerrymandered red state

^There. I fixed it.
 
Old 12-12-2016, 07:36 PM
 
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North Carolina being a solidly gerrymandered red state

^There. I fixed it.
True
 
Old 12-12-2016, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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nationwide, the Democratic party has taken a beating the past 8 years. The GOP now has the most power it is had since 1922 or so.

Republicans now control the governor’s house or the state legislative chamber in 44 states with full control in 25 states. The GOP has 33 governorships.

Romney won 68 percent of the white vote in NC, and Trump most likely was in that ballpark or greater. if more black voters start to vote GOP in the future, the Democratic party may go extinct.
 
Old 12-13-2016, 04:08 AM
 
Location: The City of Medicine
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if more black voters start to vote GOP in the future, the Democratic party may go extinct.
Not really going to happen with the current GOP platform.
 
Old 12-13-2016, 06:29 AM
 
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nationwide, the Democratic party has taken a beating the past 8 years. The GOP now has the most power it is had since 1922 or so.

Republicans now control the governor’s house or the state legislative chamber in 44 states with full control in 25 states. The GOP has 33 governorships.

Romney won 68 percent of the white vote in NC, and Trump most likely was in that ballpark or greater. if more black voters start to vote GOP in the future, the Democratic party may go extinct.
You do realize that America is Browning (trending demographic shift), the GOP's tricked-up gerrymandering tactics are being exposed and Donald Trump lost the popular vote. The political currents shift quickly and when they do again I'm not sure the current GOP platform is survivable. Even Trump ran as a non-traditional GOP candidate whose positions on certain policies are all over the place....three-card monte style. I don't see America getting redder but more purple and blue.
 
Old 12-13-2016, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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You do realize that America is Browning (trending demographic shift), the GOP's tricked-up gerrymandering tactics are being exposed and Donald Trump lost the popular vote. The political currents shift quickly and when they do again I'm not sure the current GOP platform is survivable. Even Trump ran as a non-traditional GOP candidate whose positions on certain policies are all over the place....three-card monte style. I don't see America getting redder but more purple and blue.
that is an odd response because i was talking about GOP as a whole, not just Trump. Democrats loss a ton of seats in Congress, in the Senate, and in state legislatures over the last 8 years. I'm not sure how you can conclude the GOP platform is not survivable when your party is losing so many elections.

As far as gerrymandering goes, I know there is one House congressional district in SC that was gerrymandered by Democrats to ensure Democrat always wins it. I think it is more likely a party that opposes photo ID requirements to vote is doing gerrymandering.
 
Old 12-13-2016, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Not really going to happen with the current GOP platform.
How do you know? And, are you a black person?

If GOP could get like 15 percent of the black vote, it would probably be unbeatable.
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