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Old 12-19-2016, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I thought the sporting events and businesses left the state because HB2 overturned the Charlotte ordinance. So is odd that the city now votes 10-0 to repeal their ordinance and this is supposed to bring the businesses and sporting events back. Kind of seems like it was an election year political stunt. i think this was a bad political move for the Democrat party in NC.
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:53 PM
 
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I thought the sporting events and businesses left the state because HB2 overturned the Charlotte ordinance. So is odd that the city now votes 10-0 to repeal their ordinance and this is supposed to bring the businesses and sporting events back. Kind of seems like it was an election year political stunt.
The city repealed their ordinance in order to get the state to repeal HB2, which went way beyond merely overturning the city's ordinance. So everyone is back where they started. Its the repeal of HB2 that will hopefully "bring the businesses and sporting events back."
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Baltimore MD/Durham NC
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thought the sporting events and businesses left the state because HB2 overturned the Charlotte ordinance.
HB2 did a whole lot more than just repeal the Charlotte ordinance.
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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you are somehow missing the fact that the only reason HB2 happened is the Charlotte ordinance. The businesses and sproting events left because they supported the Charlotte ordinance, which has now been repealed. McCrory said from the start that if they repealed the ordinance, HB2 would be repealed. They waited until after the election to do it.
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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HB2 did a whole lot more than just repeal the Charlotte ordinance.
it was basically saying cities can't pass ordinances regardiing various things that is not within their juridisctiion, such as raising min. wage.
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:59 PM
 
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you are somehow missing the fact that the only reason HB2 happened is the Charlotte ordinance. The businesses and sproting events left because they supported the Charlotte ordinance, which has now been repealed. McCrory said from the start that if they repealed the ordinance, HB2 would be repealed. They waited until after the election to do it.
No, they "left" because they didn't support the discriminatory aspects of HB2, which will be repealed tomorrow.


The only reason HB2 happened is because the immature jerks who run the General Assembly have to constantly show democrats that theirs is bigger.


McCrory made his bed, he can lie in it.
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Old 12-19-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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you are somehow missing the fact that the only reason HB2 happened is the Charlotte ordinance. The businesses and sproting events left because they supported the Charlotte ordinance, which has now been repealed. McCrory said from the start that if they repealed the ordinance, HB2 would be repealed. They waited until after the election to do it.
I will say that this now seems to be purely political. I hate how minorities rights are used as a weapon sometimes. Sad that millions and maybe billions of dollars was lost for political gain.
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Old 12-19-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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Apparently fortune 500 companies are planning announcements and didn't want HB2 in the way. Should hear major development/job announcements soon.
Unless you have some tangible news you'd like to share with us, your statement is more than a little irresponsible for a couple of reasons. While I suspect your motives are like many of us who would like to watch North Carolina prosper economically, I can assure you there are those that would be perfectly happy to see little immediate gain post-HB2 as proof positive that it was never about LGBT rights and everything about the standing in the way of the rest of the Conservative agenda (in other words, playing right into McCrory's game plan).

Secondly, we don't know what the GA will in fact come up with when it's all said and done. Removing the "Bathroom" part of HB2 but leaving intact the limitations of recourse for workers and all the other rights issues that HB2 squarely took aim at would be something of a hollow victory. Speculating that It's all cool now, businesses are on their way with wheelbarrows full of cash!!! fails to address that people were needlessly and deeply hurt by the GA's actions. It also shows some naivety on how these decisions are arrived at in corporate boardrooms. F-500 company's don't decide overnight to stay away from a given location nor they decide overnight to locate or expand in a given location.

Let's try to stay with the facts as they evolve.
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Old 12-19-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Geopolitics (from Greek γῆ ge "earth, land" and πολιτική politikē "politics") is the study of the effects of geography (human and physical) on international politics and international relations. Geopolitics is a method of studying foreign policy to understand, explain and predict international political behavior through geographical variables. These include area studies, climate, topography, demography, natural resources, and applied science of the region being evaluated.


HB2, the power grab by the NC General Assembly, McCrory's loss, etc. are not "geopolitical" issues.
I'm wondering where we're getting this "geopolitical" stuff from all of a sudden. Somewhere, some media person must have used the term in an oft-linked or retweeted article.
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Old 12-19-2016, 03:11 PM
 
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I thought the sporting events and businesses left the state because HB2 overturned the Charlotte ordinance. So is odd that the city now votes 10-0 to repeal their ordinance and this is supposed to bring the businesses and sporting events back. Kind of seems like it was an election year political stunt. i think this was a bad political move for the Democrat party in NC.
Bout time the Libs started playing hardball....welcome to the game Dems. Definitely a GOPish type maneuver.
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