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Old 07-10-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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It's simple; relocate or go broke. If Ohio, NY, NJ, Cali, etc transplants can make the move by the thousands for NC jobs; why can't our rural NC residents relocate 1.5 hrs " down the road".
Your empathy is touching.
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Old 07-10-2017, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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It's simple; relocate or go broke. If Ohio, NY, NJ, Cali, etc transplants can make the move by the thousands for NC jobs; why can't our rural NC residents relocate 1.5 hrs " down the road".
They likely cannot afford to or they want to live in a rural area.
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Old 07-10-2017, 01:20 PM
 
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Your empathy is touching.
I used to live in rural southern Ohio and rural eastern Kentucky. Moving is so much easier than struggling.
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Old 07-10-2017, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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They likely cannot afford to or they want to live in a rural area.
Exactly, for many people their small town is home. The reason population growth will continue to decline is not many people from out of state want to call their town home (so they don't get inward migration), but just enough young people from the town are eager to move out. Typically they lose the most ambitious young people to the cities.

For those that don't have a skill, moving to the big city to work at Walmart just means you are going to be even more broke.

These areas need the population to rally around education, job skills, and training. Until that happens, the jobs aren't coming back and these areas will continue to decline in population. Unfortunately, even with more skills, the knowledge based economy thrives off clustering of industry. The era of a small town with one big employer than employs everyone in town is dwindling in most industries.
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Old 07-10-2017, 01:25 PM
 
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I used to live in rural southern Ohio and rural eastern Kentucky. Moving is so much easier than struggling.
Not the only options, and not the point.
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Old 07-10-2017, 01:26 PM
 
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Exactly, for many people their small town is home. The reason population growth will continue to decline is not many people from out of state want to call their town home (so they don't get inward migration), but just enough young people from the town are eager to move out. Typically they lose the most ambitious young people to the cities.

For those that don't have a skill, moving to the big city to work at Walmart just means you are going to be even more broke.

These areas need the population to rally around education, job skills, and training. Until that happens, the jobs aren't coming back and these areas will continue to decline in population. Unfortunately, even with more skills, the knowledge based economy thrives off clustering of industry. The era of a small town with one big employer than employs everyone in town is dwindling in most industries.
And more importantly, they also need the state and feds to do the same, and more.

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Old 07-10-2017, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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And more importantly, they need the state and feds to do the same, and more.
30% are not even graduating high school in many of the Eastern NC counties, let alone the low percentage of college degrees in many Eastern NC counties. What should the state and feds be doing to help people graduate high school?
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Old 07-10-2017, 01:55 PM
 
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30% are not even graduating high school in many of the Eastern NC counties, let alone the low percentage of college degrees in many Eastern NC counties. What should the state and feds be doing to help people graduate high school?
There's not a county in NC with a high school graduation rate of less than 71.5% for those over age 25. And some eastern NC counties have 90%+ HS graduates (higher than Mecklenburg, btw).

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/uni...-or-higher#map

But the answer to your question is, you're asking the wrong question. More should be done to create employment opportunities for the 71.5% to 90+% who are HS grads.
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Old 07-10-2017, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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There's not a county in NC with a high school graduation rate of less than 71.5% for those over age 25. And some eastern NC counties have 90%+ HS graduates (higher than Mecklenburg, btw).

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/uni...-or-higher#map

But the answer to your question is, you're asking the wrong question. More should be done to create employment opportunities for the 71.5% to 90+% who are HS grads.
Ah I see what you mean. We'd likely delve into political views if we went any further (government's role in job creation, taxation, subsidies, etc...) and I don't want to take this off topic, but I definitely see what you mean.
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Old 07-10-2017, 04:02 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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I live in one of those counties. Kings Mountain straddles the Gaston & Cleveland counties line. The town is growing, but not enough to counteract losses in the rest of Cleveland County. The county has been bringing in new companies. The Catawbas applied for a casino but McCrory wouldn't sign for it. It would have provided about 4000 jobs, plus a good chunk of money to the state treasury from the Catawbas. The Catawbas offered a higher percentage of the take than the Cherokee Nation. Berger & Tillis opposed it to not lose campaign donations from the Cherokee Nation. That boils down to working against the interest of the people of the state.

There are people around here whose families have been here since the 1700s. If they are farmers, they can't just pick up & go to a city. Selling farmland isn't normally quick. They try to have the kids educated to give them options. Kings Mountain started a data center park to provide some opportunities to some of those kids who've been educated but would like to stay. A new data center was announced just before HB2 killed a lot of those type of jobs. There has to be cooperation on all levels.
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