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Old 06-17-2006, 11:36 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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You're right. It's kind of like the old motor racing saying, "Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go"? Ain't nuthing free!
I am going to quote this one here in Union County.....thanks for a great line.

 
Old 06-17-2006, 11:44 AM
 
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How is Waxhaw today?
 
Old 06-17-2006, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Charlotte,NC, US, North America, Earth, Alpha Quadrant,Milky Way Galaxy
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well this is interesting, I found a site that says average teacher salaries in 2001:

Average Teacher Salaries for 2000-2001
State Avg. Salary National Rank
Georgia 42,141 20
North Carolina 41,496 21
Virginia 40,247 24
Texas 38,359 26
Florida 38,230 29
South Carolina 37,938 30
Alabama 37,606 31
Tennessee 37,413 32
Mississippi 31,954 49


Since this is an average of all teachers (0 to 20 years experience) it would seem NC isn't the worst. Although for starting salaries it is at the bottom of the barrel. If you're a new teacher with 0 years experience it would be better to go to GA where I believe you can start in the $40K range
 
Old 06-17-2006, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Charlotte,NC, US, North America, Earth, Alpha Quadrant,Milky Way Galaxy
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the national starting salary average for teachers is $27K.

Note: the national average salary across the board if in the $40K (this is all working adults)
 
Old 06-17-2006, 02:13 PM
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As Miker asked, if you had the power to set the starting salary for a certified public school teacher with a BA and no professional teaching experience, what would it be? In North Carolina, of course. Let's hear some numbers.
I would be happy if the starting salary with 0 years of experience with a BA could be $35K with around $3, 000 for every additional year of experience and $38K starting salary with a masters. The most important incentive for me would also be full benefits for the family at a reasonable rate. I am still in shock I will have to pay an additional $500 a month to cover my spouse and child. It is going to cost me $6000 a year to cover my family on a salary of $32, 000! The sad thing is we are constantly exposed to the children's germs and we also bring them home to our family, so we really need good insurance!!
 
Old 06-17-2006, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Charlotte,NC, US, North America, Earth, Alpha Quadrant,Milky Way Galaxy
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I would be happy if the starting salary with 0 years of experience with a BA could be $35K with around $3, 000 for every additional year of experience and $38K starting salary with a masters. The most important incentive for me would also be full benefits for the family at a reasonable rate. I am still in shock I will have to pay an additional $500 a month to cover my spouse and child. It is going to cost me $6000 a year to cover my family on a salary of $32, 000! The sad thing is we are constantly exposed to the children's germs and we also bring them home to our family, so we really need good insurance!!
gmb I agree, $500 is high. Seems like you are paying at least 75% of the burden. If I can ask, what county and town will you be teaching in? What grade? What companies are offered as selection?

Specifically what is the breakdown between what you pay and the school pays? For example, I just looked up the health plan cost for a family for an employee of NC State University. For a family the cost is $521.32 The university contribute $321.14 and the employee contributes $200.18. This is radically different from your out of pocket costs.

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Old 06-17-2006, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Blue Ridge Mtns of NC
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Do state employees have a choice of health plans?
 
Old 06-17-2006, 08:06 PM
 
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In NC, I don't think $35,000 would be too high for a 1st year teacher. We do enter in with a degree and certification at minimum. Your first year is probably the most expensive because you are adding so much to your classroom.
 
Old 07-24-2006, 12:36 AM
 
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Where are you teaching for 32,000 for 3 yrs with masters? I just had a job offer for a school in charlotte and it was for 38,442 for the same exact exp.
My wife is going to make 32,216 right out school with no masters or exp.

http://www.cms.k12.nc.us/departments/HR/0607-Master.pdf (broken link)
 
Old 01-10-2009, 12:36 PM
 
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The last I heard, the General Assembly was still working on the details. If the legislature approves Governor Easley’s 8 percent teacher pay increase, the average adjusted teacher salary would climb to $56,960 – more than $5,000 above the adjusted national average.
Adjusted income is a very tricky concept, especially when you are in a state that has trouble recruiting teachers to begin with. Let me ask you this, where would you rather go to work right out of college? State A that comes to your college during career day and flashes starting teacher salaries at $45,500 per year or North Carolina who's starting salary $30,430 per year? You can account for other variables all you want but when it comes down to it, the qualified teacher will take the job that pays $1,500 a month more every time!

If you want to attract qualified teachers AND retain them, you need to offer salaries that are comparable to other fields. I have a M.Ed. and experience and currently make less than others with comparable education. I teach b/c I love it and I think that's why teachers continue to get the short end of the stick, b/c there are many who do it for the same reason I do. I would do it for free, but we are missing out on people who would like to teach but can't afford to do so.

With the hours I put in, after taxes and retirement and health insurance are deducted I currently make $6.75 per hour. That's a joke for ssomeone with an advanced degree! It upsets me when I see really good teachers leave the field b/c of the pay, but I completely understand!

Many have to do what's best for theeir family.
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