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Old 03-15-2012, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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I often view orange/yellow lights that blink as a caution light. For example... If there is a yellow sign with yellow blinking lights, I usually slow down and am more cautious.


If I'm in a lane with a Big arrow pointing to the left, with a stop light that has Green, Yellow, and Red left arrows then it should be no caution - nor surprise - I will be turning left....


If grandma is going 35 on the Interstate and there is no one behind me, I feel no need to turn on my caution lights cautioning to people my motor vehicle will be getting into the left late...


The yellow blinking caution lights are just that... caution lights... The red lights on the back of my car mean stop/slow down. Next thing you know, some people are gonna want cars to have green lights letting them know they can go


That's just my take on it. I'm not going to dart over in the right Lane on 277 trying to get off the exit to Kenilworth without cautioning people I'm gonna make a leap for the exit. But I'm also not going to use my signal when grandma is going 40 and I pass her. If anything those people driving slow should put their caution lights on.... 4 lanes and they choose to be in the 3rd lane...


My problem on the road is with 18 wheelers........ Especially night time I85 South Bound Gastonia... Nothing but 18 wheelers...
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:52 AM
 
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For me I never think about "do I need to use a turn signal here?", it's almost like an instinct for me. If I am turning into a new lane or moving over in general, I always use my turn signal. Whenever I look over my shoulder or in the mirror to see if it's safe to move, my hand always hits the turn signal. Sometimes out of habit I even use my turn signal when moving about a parking lot or driveway :P
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:12 AM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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For me I never think about "do I need to use a turn signal here?", it's almost like an instinct for me. If I am turning into a new lane or moving over in general, I always use my turn signal. Whenever I look over my shoulder or in the mirror to see if it's safe to move, my hand always hits the turn signal. Sometimes out of habit I even use my turn signal when moving about a parking lot or driveway :P
Nobody ever caused a crash by over signaling.
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:17 PM
 
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Drivers who have the turn signal instinct have a higher sense of social conscience than the average driver and I agree that no accident was ever caused by the overuse of turn signals but the practice probaby irritates the hell out of drivers who feel that it is their God given right to not use turn signals.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:02 PM
 
Location: NC
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For as bad as all the drivers here supposedly are, the insurance rates sure are reasonable. Something tells me the insurance industry would have a good handle on the most dangerous states for driving...

Here is their breakdown of states and average insurance costs for each:

1. Michigan, $2,541
2. Louisiana, $2,453
3. Oklahoma, $2,197
4. Montana, $2,190
5. Washington, D.C., $2,146
6. California, $1,991
7. Mississippi, $1,896
8. New Mexico, $1,896
9. Arkansas, $1,836
10. Maryland, $1,807
11. North Dakota, $1,794
12. Connecticut, $1,786
13. Rhode Island, $1,747
14. Wyoming, $1,714
15. Hawaii, $1,707
16. South Dakota, $1,707
17. Georgia, $1,670
18. New Jersey, $1,663
19. West Virginia, $1,633
20. Kentucky, $1,629
21. New York, $1,627
22. Minnesota, $1,614
23. Washington, $1,584
24. Missouri, $1,563
25. Indiana, $1,518
26. Colorado, $1,508
27. Texas, $1,492
28. Delaware, $1,489
29. Florida, $1,476
30. Nebraska, $1,470
31. Pennsylvania, $1,468
32. Kansas, $1,461
33. Alaska, $1,454
34. New Hampshire, $1,334
35. Massachusetts, $1,328
36. Idaho, $1,325
37. Alabama, $1,306
38. Oregon, $1,306
39. Nevada, $1,300
40. Illinois, $1,290
41. Arizona, $1,280
42. Utah, $1,272
43. Virginia, $1,237
44. Iowa, $1,179
45. North Carolina, $1,154
46. Ohio, $1,152
47. Tennessee, $1,146
48. Wisconsin, $1,128
49. Maine, $1,126
50. South Carolina, $1,095
51. Vermont, $995


hmmm. Florida; ~30% more expensive. Texas? ~30% more expensive. New York; ~45% more expensive. Pennsylvania; ~30% more.

Unless you're from Ohio, Tennessee, Maine, Vermont, South Carolina or Wisconsin I'd wager you're coming from a state with more dangerous driving conditions... follow the money.

If you're interested in the linky, here 'tis...
Auto Insurance Costs: Where Does Your State Rank?- Yahoo! Autos Article Page
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But how many of the expensive states are NO-FAULT (or some variation of) where insurance premiums are out of control?

Florida
Michigan
New Jersey
New York
Pennsylvania
North Carolina is one of the few states in the nation to have contributory negligence as the rule. It makes car insurance much cheaper since it reduces the claims insurers pay on, but that really isn't a commentary on our drivers, being safe or using turn signals.

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Old 03-17-2012, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC
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I think it would be much more helpful if all you people would get the heck off your cell phones, and pay attention to what is going on around you.

The problem we in NC is people who have moved here from all over the country who think they know how to do things better. There is obviously a reason you are here, or you'd return to the "paradise" you came from. If not, feel free to go back! I'd appreciate some relief from all the congestion and sprawl you have created.

In the meantime, please pay attention to what you are doing, and where you are going.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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North Carolina is one of the few states in the nation to have contributory negligence as the rule. It makes car insurance much cheaper since it reduces the claims insurers pay on, but that really isn't a commentary on our drivers, being safe or using turn signals.
Would you be so kind as to cite a source for your information?
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:34 PM
 
Location: NC
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Would you be so kind as to cite a source for your information?
http://www.youronlineinsurance.com/c...car-insurance/
The last paragraph explains the effect on pricing.

Granted it is debatable and in many ways defeats the purpose of insurance.
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Old 03-17-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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North Carolina is one of the few states in the nation to have contributory negligence as the rule. It makes car insurance much cheaper since it reduces the claims insurers pay on, but that really isn't a commentary on our drivers, being safe or using turn signals.
Let's examine this, because I appreciate this debate.

The states with pure contributory negligence:
AL
MD
VA
NC
not a state, but also D.C.

D.C. is the 5th most expensive for car insurance.
Maryland is 10th
AL is 37th
VA is 43rd
NC is 45th

so yeah, I agree it's debatable... I don't doubt that contributory negligence plays a factor in lessening insurance premiums, but I think it's clear that that factor alone does not make our insurance so (relatively) affordable. Nor is it because NC is the 5th safest place to drive, because that's not true either, lol.
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Old 03-17-2012, 04:40 PM
 
Location: NC
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Let's examine this, because I appreciate this debate.

The states with pure contributory negligence:
AL
MD
VA
NC
not a state, but also D.C.

D.C. is the 5th most expensive for car insurance.
Maryland is 10th
AL is 37th
VA is 43rd
NC is 45th

so yeah, I agree it's debatable... I don't doubt that contributory negligence plays a factor in lessening insurance premiums, but I think it's clear that that factor alone does not make our insurance so (relatively) affordable. Nor is it because NC is the 5th safest place to drive, because that's not true either, lol.
Well yes as zthatzmanz28 points out there are "No Fault" states which contriubutes to high prices. Maryland, Virginia and DC have mandated no fault add-ons. That pretty much negates savings from Contributory negligence as it does a lot to remove fault.

http://www.autoinsuranceweb.com/no-fault.html

There is also the impact state insurance commissioners have as well and for decades North Carolina had a really good insurance commissioner (Jim Long) and he was very effective in keeping NC's prices in check.
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