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Old 12-12-2011, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Renton, WA
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I know that North Dakota has low unemployment, but there must be many other characteristics to quality of life to contribute to happiness. According to the article, North Dakota is the second-happiest state:

The Happiest States of America: North Dakota on the Rise - NYTimes.com

How could North Dakota, with its low population density, lack of big cities, very cold and long winters, lack of cultural diversity, and bleak topography, be the second-happiest place to live?
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:29 PM
 
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I know that North Dakota has low unemployment, but there must be many other characteristics to quality of life to contribute to happiness. According to the article, North Dakota is the second-happiest state:

The Happiest States of America: North Dakota on the Rise - NYTimes.com

How could North Dakota, with its low population density, lack of big cities, very cold and long winters, lack of cultural diversity, and bleak topography, be the second-happiest place to live?
Possibly because we don't have to deal with a lot of people.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:30 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Possibly because we don't have to deal with a lot of people.
I agree with TravisW, only I would change one word in his quote.............'don't' has become 'didn't'. From what I have been told by people who are there, cities in the western part of the state are overcrowded, and I know that Minot is an absolute mess, the city was never meant to handle this many vehicles on the streets at one time. If you get out on the city streets between the hours of 7am-9am (everyone is on their way to work and school), 11am-1pm (lunch break time), 3pm - 8pm (school letting out and getting off work time), it's traffic nightmare compared to a year ago. And it's not going to get better anytime soon. I still love living here, but it is bringing massive adjustments for those who have been here their entire lives or those who specifically chose to live here due to the low population, low crime, low cost of living, 3 things that are basically gone now.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:57 AM
 
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I agree with TravisW, only I would change one word in his quote.............'don't' has become 'didn't'. From what I have been told by people who are there, cities in the western part of the state are overcrowded, and I know that Minot is an absolute mess, the city was never meant to handle this many vehicles on the streets at one time. If you get out on the city streets between the hours of 7am-9am (everyone is on their way to work and school), 11am-1pm (lunch break time), 3pm - 8pm (school letting out and getting off work time), it's traffic nightmare compared to a year ago. And it's not going to get better anytime soon. I still love living here, but it is bringing massive adjustments for those who have been here their entire lives or those who specifically chose to live here due to the low population, low crime, low cost of living, 3 things that are basically gone now.
That is right, the town in ND were not made for the kind of traffic that has arose. Really if we are really honest with each other, ND was one of the last places where there was a sense of safeness, calmness, and spaciousness, without being totally isolated from "society" so to speak.

I find pleasure in the little things in life not found in big city life, I love the beauty of western ND, but I sense that is going to the wayside soon as well. After the 50,000 wells have been drilled as projected, I fear that the beauty that most of us native ND's love will have fallen to the wayside.

Dare I say there is a sense of mourning among the natives?

I like looking at the whole picture and being honest. Yes, progress is good, the boom is providing many needed jobs, the flood has provided more jobs, but life will never be the same for many ND's again.
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:17 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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That is right, the town in ND were not made for the kind of traffic that has arose. Really if we are really honest with each other, ND was one of the last places where there was a sense of safeness, calmness, and spaciousness, without being totally isolated from "society" so to speak.

I find pleasure in the little things in life not found in big city life, I love the beauty of western ND, but I sense that is going to the wayside soon as well. After the 50,000 wells have been drilled as projected, I fear that the beauty that most of us native ND's love will have fallen to the wayside.

Dare I say there is a sense of mourning among the natives?

I like looking at the whole picture and being honest. Yes, progress is good, the boom is providing many needed jobs, the flood has provided more jobs, but life will never be the same for many ND's again.
You said that very well Broncogirl, that is exactly how many native NoDak's, including my family and myself feel.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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I know that North Dakota has low unemployment, but there must be many other characteristics to quality of life to contribute to happiness. According to the article, North Dakota is the second-happiest state:

The Happiest States of America: North Dakota on the Rise - NYTimes.com

How could North Dakota, with its low population density, lack of big cities, very cold and long winters, lack of cultural diversity, and bleak topography, be the second-happiest place to live?
Perhaps some of these are reasons why people like North Dakota. I left the Chicago area to come up here when I could have moved almost anywhere in the country. I prefer cold and long winters and lack of cultural diversity. I don't consider the topography bleak. Many reasons why people like big cities are reasons why I don't like them. Not everyone is built the same and is looking for the same things in life.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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I completely understand, the Texas of my childhood is gone forever..It grieves me..About 20 years ago, there was a feeling that the small towns in Texas retains a sense of safety and community..but I hate to say now even that is gone. I absolutely count it as loss.
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:53 AM
 
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I have lived in or very close to North Dakota for my entire life. I love the 'simple' life here. I can order something online if I need it real bad. I travel to Minot once a month to do my shopping. In the past I could leave my door unlocked and not worry. People used to give me crap in the past for living here and now I see alot of people flocking here.
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Virgin Islands
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So...wgat your saying is...you like being insolated from people of other cultures because you'd rather run from it than learn from other cultures? I can understand
Being sad for a loss of your community, but purpously runing from diversity and the opportunity to learn something is ignorant. Your post validates my feelings of blase treatment by natives here in fargo after i was told prior to coming how "nice" peoplre were here - i guess if your white folks are nice.
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Perhaps some of these are reasons why people like North Dakota. I left the Chicago area to come up here when I could have moved almost anywhere in the country. I prefer cold and long winters and lack of cultural diversity. I don't consider the topography bleak. Many reasons why people like big cities are reasons why I don't like them. Not everyone is built the same and is looking for the same things in life.
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:57 PM
 
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So...wgat your saying is...you like being insolated from people of other cultures because you'd rather run from it than learn from other cultures? I can understand
Being sad for a loss of your community, but purpously runing from diversity and the opportunity to learn something is ignorant. Your post validates my feelings of blase treatment by natives here in fargo after i was told prior to coming how "nice" peoplre were here - i guess if your white folks are nice.
I'm a first generation American on my dad's side, he came here from Africa (but I am white). I grew up in a home where I was taught about other cultures and learned to respect them. As an adult my interest in other cultures, beliefs, and countries has only increased. That being said, I prefer small towns to big cities. A person doesn't have to live in a large city to have culture or enjoy learning about other people and places.

I don't think North Dakota is running from diversity, I just think there are people out there who value their privacy and North Dakota happens to have a lot of those people. You see it as isolation or insulating (not sure which word you were using there), but I think for most of us it's just choosing to live a life where things move slower and are not as stressful.
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