Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > North Dakota
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-15-2009, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Fargo, ND
45 posts, read 160,982 times
Reputation: 121

Advertisements

Get a front wheel drive car for ND, my friend. You'll be happy that you did.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-16-2009, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
26,404 posts, read 46,566,000 times
Reputation: 19539
Subaru works well for deep snow, mud, and more limited off road treks. It is AWD. 4WD might be nice if you live way out in a rural area with no winter plowing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-16-2009, 01:47 PM
 
9,803 posts, read 16,187,823 times
Reputation: 8266
The OP mentions a ---"30 mile comute to town everyday"

Forget about a vehicle that requires chains in order to get around in winter.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-16-2009, 04:14 PM
ND? ND? started this thread
 
5 posts, read 35,889 times
Reputation: 10
What's the story on chains, anyway?

I've never used them but I heard even semis use them up north. Will they not hold up for a 30 mile commute? Do they help enough to make buying them worthwhile (a quick search online shows they aren't cheap)?

I've always driven trucks and can't imagine ever driving a Subaru or a car - I do too much camping and hauling for that. I'd hate to trade my truck, because it's only two years old and in perfect shape, but I don't want to end up wrecking it either.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-16-2009, 09:23 PM
 
1,016 posts, read 3,035,789 times
Reputation: 679
Quote:
Originally Posted by ND? View Post
What's the story on chains, anyway?

I've never used them but I heard even semis use them up north. Will they not hold up for a 30 mile commute? Do they help enough to make buying them worthwhile (a quick search online shows they aren't cheap)?

I've always driven trucks and can't imagine ever driving a Subaru or a car - I do too much camping and hauling for that. I'd hate to trade my truck, because it's only two years old and in perfect shape, but I don't want to end up wrecking it either.
You have to drive pretty slowly with chains or else they tend to do bad things (like fly apart). Even with a 2wd pickup, chains are generally not necessary as long as you have some weight in the box (unless you are breaking through unopened road in a rural area).

The key is to pay attention to the road while you're driving on it. I never once ditched that F-250, and being the lazy lout that I am, I never had any weight in the box or chains. But you definitely learn how to feel the road through the wheel and the seat, if that makes any sense.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2009, 05:37 PM
 
1,340 posts, read 2,803,956 times
Reputation: 768
I had a 2 w drive Ford truck that was winter scary in hilly Vermont,added
studded snows and 350 lbs of sand bags and better that most 4 wheelers.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2009, 06:56 PM
 
9,803 posts, read 16,187,823 times
Reputation: 8266
are studded tires allowed in ND ?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2009, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Central Wisconsin
53 posts, read 122,614 times
Reputation: 39
My experience is that a short box truck is usually better in the snow than a long box. I have driven fwd vehicles that were worse in the snow than a rwd. I prefer rwd since it is easier to control if you loose traction. I would rather deal with the rear of the vehicle kicking out instead of the front. Also a good set of snow tires goes a long way. My friend got the meanest set he could find and put them on his Explorer. I was amazed at the amount of traction it had in 2wd. I would venture to say it was better than some 4x4s. Skinny tall tires in my experience always work the best. Most of the time if it is a soft power you'll be able to blow through it as long as you don't get hung up. Crusty snow though is much harder to drive through without getting stuck. Also I would suggest carrying a bucket of ashes along. It helps big time when your stuck. Other people use sand or kitty litter but it doesn't work half as good as a good pile of wood ash will. Also a good dose of common sense never hurts too. Sometimes your better off staying home.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2009, 10:33 PM
 
1,016 posts, read 3,035,789 times
Reputation: 679
That's true, particularly with RWD vehicles.

I was freaked out by the understeer of front wheel drive cars for a while, as I was much more used to the rear end kicking out (which is somewhat more manageable than understeer).

Another ice tip to remember---if you're braking on ice and have an automatic transmission, shift the vehicle into neutral. The car will be much more controllable and stop much better. When the car is in gear, the brakes have to clamp hard enough to counteract the torque that the engine is putting on the wheels, which in turn tends to lock up the wheels on ice. Without counteracting that torque, you can brake considerably more gingerly, which helps you avoid lockup.

Oh, another thing I found helpful. Have you ever watched car racing and heard how the drivers blip the throttle as they downshift? Part of the reason for that is that by increasing the engine RPM before hitting the lower gear, they reduce the drag that the engine is putting on the driveline (compression braking), which means they slow down more smoothly and avoid losing traction. This works well on ice, too. On glare ice, you can lose traction on the drive wheels simply by downshifting. Blipping the gas when you have the clutch pushed in and then releasing the clutch softens the downshifting effect considerably.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-21-2009, 05:46 PM
 
Location: NW MT
309 posts, read 991,211 times
Reputation: 130
Well no you don't need chains or studded tires, but I would recommend a Subaru instead of a pickup. Lower center of gravity and less chance of roll-over. I drove from MT-ND twice a week for 8 years and never in that time did I need to put my chains on the pickup. Studded tires on all fours yes. It helps for slowing down on ice and can be driven at highway speeds. Don't fall for the tire siping rouse - it just damages the tires and makes you buy earlier than you need to. On the class 8 always put on chains, but you can't drive more than 15 mph or you take a chance of breaking a link and shattering some other drivers' windshield.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > North Dakota
View detailed profiles of:

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:26 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top