Moving to Kingston (Scranton, Levittown: rental, school, live)

[bloominscranton]

Originally Posted by RestonRunner86

I have for 24 years until the past few weeks.




Then you're one of the few who doesn't find sidewalk-less suburban cul-de-sacs to be sterile. I have others in NoVA inquiring about Pittsburgh after seeing how successful my own transition has been.

The question was not put to you...I know more about you then I want to...

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by loveinbloom

The question was not put to you...I know more about you then I want to...

Well a big hearty &$$^## to you too!

[sues1]

Originally Posted by RestonRunner86

To be fair changing lifestyle trends---not necessarily a poor quality-of-life---have caused the continuing demise of inner suburban places like Kingston, Forty Fort, West Pittston, etc. while Mountain Top, the Back Mountain, the Abingtons, and other newer suburban areas have been the benefactors. Even Clarks Summit is in a population nosedive as residents there move to newer housing options in adjacent South Abington Township, and I don't think anyone would seriously offer up a credible argument to indicate Clarks Summit has a poor quality-of-life that is causing its downfall.

Families, at least for a long time from the 1970s until the recession, wanted to live excessively and ostentatiously with a large amount of land around them, distance from neighbors, 2-car garages, ample off-street parking, and relative isolation. They didn't care about front porches because they didn't want to be that "intimate" with their neighbors. They wanted backyard inground pools over sharing a neighborhood or community pool. They wanted backyard playsets instead of being within walking distance to a neighborhood park. That's why places like the Back Mountain are now replete with sterile cul-de-sacs right out of Desperate Housewives. There's been a much more recent trend of people reinvesting in core urbanized areas nationwide, and Wilkes-Barre has seen that to a smaller extent; it only lost 1 person from 2008-2009, based upon census estimates, and I project it will be growing between 2010 and 2020, especially if it can continue to improve its negative external image (Scranton is another story).

Say what you all will, but in my opinion places like West Pittston, Forty Fort, and, yes, Kingston, are all still wonderful places to live. If some of you think the nearly 100,000 people who live in the Back Mountain, Mountain Top, and Abingtons combined are all "angels", then you're in need of a serious wake-up call, as drugs are just as commonplace in these affluent outlying suburban areas as they are in the inner suburban areas. Violent crimes can and will occur. Where did that slain gay porn producer live who was nearly beheaded before having his home torched? Wilkes-Barre? Nope. Hoighty-toighty Dallas Township, one of the most affluent communities in the region. There have been major drug busts at Abington Heights High School.

If some of you honestly think Kingston is unsafe or trashy then you really should move out to Lopez or somewhere. Most of the people I knew from Kingston while working at Lowe's were middle-class college-educated professionals, many of whom worked Downtown.

I grew up in Suburbia, and i wouldn't have it any other way, i've said it before and i'll say it again. It was awesome, we had plenty of other kids to play with, we had plenty to do, we could play in the streets without worrying about a ton of traffic, we had backyards, our parents taught us how to mow the lawn, pick weeds, shovel, we had places to play that were safe where we could use our imagination, it was the best. It wasn't sterile, yes there were drugs in the community, there are drugs in every community. I am so thankful i grew up in Whippany, NJ and i wouldn't of wanted to grow up anywhere else. Paul, you would have a stroke if you drove through Whippany,,,,,,lolololol.

[sues1]

Originally Posted by loveinbloom

Your experience is that, yours an not all developments fit your description In my old neighborhood, we (surrounding neighbors) all knew each others names, sat in the front yard and talked to one another while watching the children play...

Exactly, that's how it was in the "sterile" suburban neighborhood i grew up in. The adults hung out with each other and the kids ran up and down the street and the yards, it was one big community and we all looked out for each other.

[Denton56]

Originally Posted by loveinbloom

Your experience is that, yours an not all developments fit your description In my old neighborhood, we (surrounding neighbors) all knew each others names, sat in the front yard and talked to one another while watching the children play...

That's exactly how it was for my family in Vienna, a town in NOVA, over the last 25 years. We had sidewalks, and playgrounds. The kids all walked to school, on sidewalks, and we knew every neighbor on our court and the surrounding courts and streets. We knew all the kids and watched out for them. They rode their bikes to football and baseball practice, piano lessons, art classes, tennis lessons, the neighborhood pool for swim lessons and swim team, and the local drug store with a counter for milkshakes. It's impossible for kids to have that kind of freedom in the city. Our families had block parties, went to the town parades together, had barbeques together, attend all the school events together. It was suburbia, and a the perfect place to raise a family.

[sues1]

Originally Posted by Denton56

That's exactly how it was for my family in Vienna, a town in NOVA, over the last 25 years. We had sidewalks, and playgrounds. The kids all walked to school, on sidewalks, and we knew every neighbor on our court and the surrounding courts and streets. We knew all the kids and watched out for them. They rode their bikes to football and baseball practice, piano lessons, art classes, tennis lessons, the neighborhood pool for swim lessons and swim team, and the local drug store with a counter for milkshakes. It's impossible for kids to have that kind of freedom in the city. Our families had block parties, went to the town parades together, had barbeques together, attend all the school events together. It was suburbia, and a the perfect place to raise a family.

Loved it!!!!!!!

[sues1]

My son said Kingston is a nice place to live

[Denton56]

Originally Posted by loveinbloom

I am so sick of you preaching without a pulpit!
For someone who craves acceptance from the majority, you surely do not have a problem putting down the majority! For an educated young men in American society you have so much to learn!! EVERY community has undesirables, some just hide it better! Have you ever heard of lipstick on a pig????? How dare you group an entire population into your narrow and limited life experience! Dangnamit...stereotypes are stereotypes and you have no problem problem perpetuating one. But God forbid someone said something to the effect of " ...all gay men are limp wristed puffs that just want casual sex..."!You would be calling the ACLU or something! When and if you ever become responsible for another human life, make sure you don't pick the best environment that you know of for that life! After all suburbia is.....blah blah blah blah! Your disdain for the environment in which you were raised has already been established in post after post...

Great post! You are so right, stereotypes are stereotypes. Young liberals can be so sure that they are right about everything, so very sanctimonious. I have to chuckle. When they grow up and have a family, everything will change. Of course they are too young and immature to be able to see that. That's ok. They'll grow and learn. When that happens they too look back at themselves and chuckle.

[SteelCityRising]

Just out of curiosity, Denton56, have you always had an interest in posting in every sub-forum that I post in? It just seems like an odd coincidence. I feel so honored to be such a trend-setter!

[Denton56]

[quote=RestonRunner86;16963259]Just out of curiosity, Denton56, have you always had an interest in posting in every sub-forum that I post in? It just seems like an odd coincidence. I feel so honored to be such a trend-setter![/quote

Of course, dear! I've always found you endlessly fascinating! No coincidence at all! But I don't think that either of us are ''trend setters''!