Bart & Urby's in Downtown Wilkes-Barre Being Sued By Beating Victim

[MermanMike]

Good for you for being sober from one sober man to another. It is a shame that when ever someone finds out I'm sober they think I had a drinking problem. I just don't see the pleasure in escaping the reality of my beautiful life! )

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by MermanMike

Good for you for being sober from one sober man to another. It is a shame that when ever someone finds out I'm sober they think I had a drinking problem. I just don't see the pleasure in escaping the reality of my beautiful life! )

Thanks. Don't feel alone though. I'm viewed as a social outcast too because I don't like to drink. Heaven forbid I order a WATER when we go out.

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by WasPA

SWB: ^^^Oddly enough, militating against alcoholism probably won't get you anything but frustration and will usually create the opposite result. It's a tricky disease. Seek out others locally who have deep experience and not those who simply militate. You'll save yourself years of anguish from what I understand.....

Thanks for the advice. Are you implying that many alcoholics started off opposing alcohol and then giving into temptation and becoming the way they now are? I haven't had the luxury of being around too many people who can just have one or two drinks and don't make total jackasses out of themselves in the long-run, so perhaps there ARE people out there who can drink responsibly. Perhaps it's just our area where most take it too far (judging by the court notes I read every other day in the Times-Tribune where it seems like 15 people were arrested for DUIs).

[WasPA]

^ I'm implying nothing of the sort.

I do recognize that there are loads of young people who can drink and drug like gangbusters and later move past that stage and not become active alcoholics. Someone like Bette Midler comes to mind...she lived life to the hilt in the 60s and 70s, but later moved on to a more productive life without skipping a beat and without having a drug or alcohol problem

Others don't have that good fortune and later end up in places they'd rather not be if they were in their right minds to varying degrees from getting platered daily to ending up being homeless, alcoholically insane or still worse----vegetaitve, institutionized 'wet brains'.

As for militating against it, you might as well beat your head bloody against a wall. No one is smarter than alcoholism. No one controls it or anyone else's boozing. You might as well militate against compulsive behaviour, the schizoprhenias or narcissism and see how far you get. Kapisch? Family members of alchoholics have the bad luck of being stuck with the disease (as co-alcoholics) by default; they need help as well; putting off that help is as unwise as starting to save for your retirement at 61 rather than at 21 years of age looking at it in financial terms as analogy. The sooner one gets to it, the better his/her life will be.

PS: there are 'dry drunks' in life.....alcoholics who swore off at some point and do not imbibe. If you study our present administration carefully, you'll find some of that and you'll see how destructive these folks can become rather than being truly sober with some substantive support programs in their lives.

This is a segue from the Burt & Urby thing, but since you asked.....

That's about all I'm aware of.....

[Chefkey]

I don't know, I guess people just have different metabolisms. I like beer and am enjoying on as I type this and I have a few every night. That said, I don't remember the last time I was drunk. If certain people get ugly when they imbibe it is their responibility to curb their actions and friends should try to intervene. It is sad when you see Brittanylike implosions.