High Speed commuter rail line planned between Scranton and Nyc by 2030 (York: crime, standard of living)

[bobconan]

I saw an entire family move in on the train, Carrying the dining room table and everything. Watching them try to get the queen size mattress through the doors on that Comet III was a real knee slapper. Must of had 30 lbs of Crack between them.

[auntieannie68]

sigh--nepa needs to fix what is happening here and now---why muck up incompetency by adding another issue???

[fisheye]

Originally Posted by bobconan

I saw an entire family move in on the train, Carrying the dining room table and everything. Watching them try to get the queen size mattress through the doors on that Comet III was a real knee slapper. Must of had 30 lbs of Crack between them.

And I saw some things riding the subway system in Philly back in the 1960's. Does that mean that we should have shut down their subway? Of course it probably would have kept down our gas prices!

But these comments are not helping our problems here and now: //www.city-data.com/forum/north...g-nations.html. Most of those commuters are good, hard working, people and how do we improve their lives? How do we improve the quality of life for all that are in our area? Modernizing our infrastructure, reducing commute times, would help. Commuters would have more time to spend with their families and real estate prices would rise. Creating the same jobs locally, that they offer in the city, would also help - so people would not have to commute.

When I was growing up we did have train service to the city. Many of our largest resorts prospered from that train service because it brought them guest and made our area know as a tourist attraction. Yes; some of my fellow 'locals' did fight against it for the same reasons as you state. But this Country is about change and we cannot step in the way of 'progress'. Besides you cannot claim that our bumpy, potholed, roads are the best system for any area!

[Sarge621]

By 2030 who cares... I also heard there are mermaids under the Gap Bridge that only show themselves on only the 3rd Thursdays of the month, only on full moons when the temperature is exactly 68 degrees.... So i been told...

[ughhnyc]

The Poconos is a depressed region. There are some retail developers coming in that are trying to turn things around, but this area still remains a disparate tourist and recreational area. The locals who aren't hooked on opiates or alcohol work in construction, labor trades and hospitality.

I don't even see this region surpassing Lehigh Valley by 2030 in terms of retail, quality restaurants, road infrastructure, property values.

Lehigh Valley has 12 breweries in 2015. The Poconos has 1.

I always have a slight lol inside when I drive up 209 in East Stroudsburg and Marshalls Creek and I see a new business that has recently opened up, be it a mom and pop restaurant, car wash, or motel, bar, pizza place or smoke shop. None of these places will last longer than 2 years before shutting down. Everything is empty on weekdays.

It's pointless trying to build the region into something it isn't and never will be.

Smaller retailers in this area have no idea who their consumer base is, or how to run a successful business.

[bobconan]

Originally Posted by fisheye

And I saw some things riding the subway system in Philly back in the 1960's. Does that mean that we should have shut down their subway? Of course it probably would have kept down our gas prices!

But these comments are not helping our problems here and now: //www.city-data.com/forum/north...g-nations.html. Most of those commuters are good, hard working, people and how do we improve their lives? How do we improve the quality of life for all that are in our area? Modernizing our infrastructure, reducing commute times, would help. Commuters would have more time to spend with their families and real estate prices would rise. Creating the same jobs locally, that they offer in the city, would also help - so people would not have to commute.

When I was growing up we did have train service to the city. Many of our largest resorts prospered from that train service because it brought them guest and made our area know as a tourist attraction. Yes; some of my fellow 'locals' did fight against it for the same reasons as you state. But this Country is about change and we cannot step in the way of 'progress'. Besides you cannot claim that our bumpy, potholed, roads are the best system for any area!

Im mildly depressed that my post was believable....

[Gerania]

Originally Posted by bobconan

Im mildly depressed that my post was believable....

I think he was just being polite.

[quiet life]

Originally Posted by ughhnyc

The Poconos is a depressed region. There are some retail developers coming in that are trying to turn things around, but this area still remains a disparate tourist and recreational area. The locals who aren't hooked on opiates or alcohol work in construction, labor trades and hospitality.

I don't even see this region surpassing Lehigh Valley by 2030 in terms of retail, quality restaurants, road infrastructure, property values.

Lehigh Valley has 12 breweries in 2015. The Poconos has 1.

I always have a slight lol inside when I drive up 209 in East Stroudsburg and Marshalls Creek and I see a new business that has recently opened up, be it a mom and pop restaurant, car wash, or motel, bar, pizza place or smoke shop. None of these places will last longer than 2 years before shutting down. Everything is empty on weekdays.

It's pointless trying to build the region into something it isn't and never will be.

Smaller retailers in this area have no idea who their consumer base is, or how to run a successful business.

The bolded part struck me because Sears opened a Hometown store in Marshalls Creek with much fanfare. It ended up closing after maybe a year tops. I thought that store would help that strip but not to be. Other than Perkins and that gym there, I don't know what can be done with that strip. Much less the rest of the corridor heading towards Fernwood. It's a catch 22 in this area. Why open a business when your potential patrons can't support you? There aren't any high paying occupations in the area so lack of spending power.

[fisheye]

Originally Posted by quiet life

The bolded part struck me because Sears opened a Hometown store in Marshalls Creek with much fanfare. It ended up closing after maybe a year tops. I thought that store would help that strip but not to be. Other than Perkins and that gym there, I don't know what can be done with that strip. Much less the rest of the corridor heading towards Fernwood. It's a catch 22 in this area. Why open a business when your potential patrons can't support you? There aren't any high paying occupations in the area so lack of spending power.

According to this article, which supposedly quotes the Small Business Administration, the survival rate for small business is only a little over 50% for five years and 33% for ten years: How Long Does the Average Sole Proprietorship Last? | Chron.com. What you see locally is reflective of what you see nationally. Of course there are some areas of the country that have higher survival rates and some that have lower survival rates.

Sometimes you have to look at the business and wonder why they would ever try in the first place. The psychic that located close to the Sonoco station in Scottrun is a perfect example. Possibly they located there because they thought that they would have casino patrons stopping? But they obviously were not too psychic because I have not seen one customer since they opened their doors.

We have many pizza places, delis and restaurants in our area. Many of these will not survive simply because they have no items on their menus that really stand out. The owners can turn on TV programs like 'Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives' and see great new foods. Then they offer us foods barely edible. Consumers have been programed to have higher expectations. We really don't care that you have a hundred items on your menus as long as the few you do have taste great consistently. If you find that perfect balance; word-of-mouth advertising is free and you never have to worry about finding customers.

So, I guess what I am saying, is a lot of this is just about working smart. You cannot just come up with an idea and then go out and make money. It takes hard work and a lot of research and some luck. However, I would not put this area down because there are no 'high paying' jobs. Many of our commuters are making six figures. Even some locals make six figures. Yes; we do have many low paying jobs - but, even those people, still eat and need services.

[DarkWolf]

What I find really sad and shameful is by 2025 Northern & Southern Africa will have constructed a unified Rail network over 80,000 miles long. With the Middle East , Asia , Europe constructing an addition 160,000 miles by 2030 and here we are in the US struggling to build and restore small rail corridors.