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Old 06-23-2015, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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Do you expect me to believe the people who have made the decisions to shift operations overseas are not Republicans? Come on. I'm not stupid.
That sounds like a statement a brainwashed person would make, like they've been made to believe all rich people are Republicans.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:04 AM
 
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Do you expect me to believe the people who have made the decisions to shift operations overseas are not Republicans? Come on. I'm not stupid.
If a competitor of my acquaintance moves production overseas or a foreign competitor moves in severely undercutting him what is it you suggest he do?

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We have the option of buying the $120 boot. We always choose the $300 pair.
Unfortunately most people don't do that, they shop for price. In some cases it's very hard to blame them. Expecting someone to dump a weeks wages on a pair boots is just not realistic.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:06 AM
 
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You need to stop voting D:

e.g.

Slick Willy Clinton ----->NAFTA
(remember Ross Perot when he said - that big sucking sound =jobs moving to Mexico).

Next was China (both parties & Wall Street Greed),

now Barry Soetoro Obobo wants to create a new Asian NAFTA program - as part of his legacy to destroy the remaining good pay job in this country (as if the Obobo Healthcare did not create enough carnage to hurt the little guy).

Keep voting D - look what it has done for W-B...(converted it into a smelly dirty gunshot riddled ghetto).
The original NAFTA negotiations took place under George HW Bush. It was passed off to Clinton as he was coming into office and despite President Bush trying to fast track it, Congress had not yet received it. Clinton added in two side agreements, but he is not responsible for NAFTA directly. During Congressional voting, it was overwhelming Republicans leading the way. Yes, Clinton supported it and stated so when he signed it.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:14 AM
 
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That sounds like a statement a brainwashed person would make, like they've been made to believe all rich people are Republicans.
If you haven't noticed I did say BOTH parties are responsible. I don't believe all rich people are Republicans because I'm not stupid. But I also don't believe that all those people who benefit from moving companies overseas are Democrats.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:16 AM
 
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If a competitor of my acquaintance moves production overseas or a foreign competitor moves in severely undercutting him what is it you suggest he do?
You're either part of the solution or part of the problem. There are plenty of people in this country who want to buy American. I'd suggest he start selling online.



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Unfortunately most people don't do that, they shop for price. In some cases it's very hard to blame them. Expecting someone to dump a weeks wages on a pair boots is just not realistic.
Its not realistic for me to say I support American businesses and labor and then dump money into foreign made products, products that are probably made by children or other exploited classes. Its not always feasible or easy to buy American/local but it doesn't mean we shouldn't prioritize where our money goes either. Its not an either/or proposition. Start small and work up to it.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:18 AM
 
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The original NAFTA negotiations took place under George HW Bush. It was passed off to Clinton as he was coming into office and despite President Bush trying to fast track it, Congress had not yet received it. Clinton added in two side agreements, but he is not responsible for NAFTA directly. During Congressional voting, it was overwhelming Republicans leading the way. Yes, Clinton supported it and stated so when he signed it.


Who benefits from all the deregulating that has been happening over the past 10-15 years? Who supports deregulation?

When you answer those questions you'll see who is at least partially responsible for our decline.
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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You're either part of the solution or part of the problem.
That's very easy to say when it's not your company that you spent two decades building on the line.


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I'd suggest he start selling online.
Irrelevant answer as these types of options are available to any business.



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Its not always feasible or easy to buy American/local but it doesn't mean we shouldn't prioritize where our money goes either.
When are you putting in the coal boiler? All the major boiler/stove manufacturers are located in the NEPA area as is the fuel production facilities. If there is one single product you could highlight that is almost 100% local that will inject vast sums of money into the local economy that would be it.
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:38 AM
 
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Who benefits from all the deregulating that has been happening over the past 10-15 years? Who supports deregulation?

When you answer those questions you'll see who is at least partially responsible for our decline.
I wasn't specifically commenting on decline, I was responding to the poster who laid NAFTA at Clinton's feet, which is only partially correct.

I'm not native to the area, nor have I been here for many years yet, so I'm not well versed on the economic fallout of policies implemented regionally or federally. I'm also politically pretty much non political as I believe I'm always deciding against the lesser of two evils when standing in a voting booth
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:47 AM
 
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Who benefits from all the deregulating that has been happening over the past 10-15 years? Who supports deregulation?
It's over regulation that is part of the reason for the demise of business in this country.
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Old 06-23-2015, 09:08 AM
 
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That's very easy to say when it's not your company that you spent two decades building on the line.
Whether its easy to say or not, its the truth.



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Irrelevant answer as these types of options are available to any business.
Why is it irrelevant? The tenets of success for businesses are always the same for any business. How one decides to use those options often defines their success or failure. Many local businesses have saved themselves by adding online sales to their toolbox. Its quite relevant to this conversation.





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When are you putting in the coal boiler? All the major boiler/stove manufacturers are located in the NEPA area as is the fuel production facilities. If there is one single product you could highlight that is almost 100% local that will inject vast sums of money into the local economy that would be it.
You missed my point. I believe I made it clear that I buy local/American as much as I possibly can. That does not equate to 100% of the time. I do not throw my hands up and say, "Well since I can't do it all the time, I'm never doing it" which is the attitude I sense coming from you.
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