02-14-2021, 10:23 AM
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Hello,
Now that it seems like my job will be reliably remote for the long run, I am expanding my home search beyond the NY/NJ area to northeast PA. I would like to move to a place where I can do my hobbies or work on my car without my nosy neighbors complaining to the super if i try to change my oil in my own garage -_-
Was looking at Pike and Monroe counties. It seems Pike is a bit more rural except for Milford and Matamoras. I'm looking for a place where I can get at least 1+ acres, but not be so far away from town that I can't get high speed internet. Also would like to be near highways so I can get back to Rockland/Bergen/NYC in ~1.5 hrs if need be. Pluses would be relatively peaceful but still near hospitals and shopping, low taxes and not overly strict laws/zoning (would like to build a garage/workshop). Definitely don't want a HOA telling me what I can and can't do. Low crime as well, but I mean is there anyone prefer a place that has high crime lol.
A few towns with houses that I was interested are Milford, Dingmans Ferry, East Stroudsburg, Saylorsburg and Bartonsville. What's life like in these places? Is it a buyers or sellers market right now? I notice a few foreclosures in the area, I'm guessing it's from people who are affected by the economic downturn. How are these areas handling it? Not that I'm happy people are losing their homes, but I'm seeing a bunch of houses with prices that almost seem too good to be true, so hoping I can get a good deal on a house now instead of waiting and hoping for house prices to go down in a few years, if they even do that... Also considering buying land and building a new house, how are the contractors in the area?
Here's the questionnaire from the FAQ:
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When are you moving? - not sure, maybe within the next year
Where are you coming from? - Bergen County NJ
Why are you moving? - Buying a house, tired of living in an apartment
Where will you be working? - Remotely
Have you been here yet? - Not in 20 years
If you will be working in NY or NJ, where do you currently work (city/town)? - Remotely, but occasional in person visits to Jersey City
Will you continue to commute? - See above
Will you buy or rent? - Buy
If buying, are you looking for a house or a condo? How much can you spend? - House, up to $400k
If renting, are you looking for an apartment, a townhouse or loft? How much can you spend? - N/A
Do you prefer hi-rise or walk up? -N/A
Are you married or single? Do you have children? - Not yet married but potentially marrying soon (thanks COVID
), no kids at the moment but probably within the next 5 years
Do you prefer public or private schools? - Private
Do you have pets? - No
Do you want or need a yard? - Yes
Are you keeping a car? - Multiple vehicles
Do you prefer bustling activity or calm and quiet? - Calm and quiet but still near town, hospitals etc
What do you want to be closest to?
Work
Shopping
Basic services (supermarket, drugstore, etc.)
Nightlife
Near Bus stop? Please note that there is NO rail service in the Scranton-Wilkes Barre area.
Do you want to live with people of a similar age, race, religion or sexual preference or do you prefer a diverse neighborhood? - Not terribly important as long as people aren't downright violent/hostile.
Favorite beverage? - Water, or if this is referring to alcohol, then bourbon
02-14-2021, 04:12 PM
Location: Saylorsburg, PA
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If you want to be able to work on your cars without anyone snooping on you and reporting you to the HOA committee (there is no supers out when you buy your own home) then I would highly suggest you don't buy in a gated or any community which has an HOA. I would suggest you look in Saylorsburg b Brodheadsville which has shopping (ShopRite & Weiss), banking (Wells Fargo, and others), McD's, Burger King, Taco Bell/KFC, Pleasant Valley Elementary & High School (highly rated), and other businesses.....
02-14-2021, 05:35 PM
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You won't find an acre of land in Milford or Stroudsburg. Most of Pike County is rural, hilly and forested and most of the houses are in HOAs. Your best bet would be northern Wayne County, where there are small farmettes on a few acres. That area is not close to Rockland or Bergen Counties or NYC.
02-15-2021, 08:31 AM
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DavidWebb
If you want to be able to work on your cars without anyone snooping on you and reporting you to the HOA committee (there is no supers out when you buy your own home) then I would highly suggest you don't buy in a gated or any community which has an HOA. I would suggest you look in Saylorsburg b Brodheadsville which has shopping (ShopRite & Weiss), banking (Wells Fargo, and others), McD's, Burger King, Taco Bell/KFC, Pleasant Valley Elementary & High School (highly rated), and other businesses.....
Yup, I have zero interest in buying a house that's in a HOA. I'm sure it works out great for plenty of people, but not what I'm going for. Thanks for suggesting Brodheadsville, I'll keep a lookout in those areas.
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Wells5
You won't find an acre of land in Milford or Stroudsburg. Most of Pike County is rural, hilly and forested and most of the houses are in HOAs. Your best bet would be northern Wayne County, where there are small farmettes on a few acres. That area is not close to Rockland or Bergen Counties or NYC.
Sorry, I guess I meant I'm not particular about having a house specifically in those places, but rather in the general vicinity those places as I assume they'll have all the grocery stores, hospitals etc. FWIW I do have houses with >1 acre showing up in my searches, but definitely moreso in Monroe county than Pike, though at first I thought the opposite would be true. I seems a lot of homes in Pike really do have HOAs and my no HOA filter is getting rid of them. When I disable the filter, a lot more homes come up.
Wayne County seems a little bit further out than what I would like, but maybe I'll look into buying additional land there to build a cabin/firewood/recreation in the future, thanks for the suggestion!
02-15-2021, 08:54 AM
Location: Saylorsburg, PA
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Also there is Blue Ridge Estates Winery which is also very close to Brodheadsville....if there were sidewalks I could walk to it and in that area there are some houses for sale....some are foreclosures, some aren't....
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02-15-2021, 12:18 PM
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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14.313
FWIW I do have houses with >1 acre showing up in my searches, but definitely moreso in Monroe county than Pike, though at first I thought the opposite would be true. I seems a lot of homes in Pike really do have HOAs and my no HOA filter is getting rid of them. When I disable the filter, a lot more homes come up.
If you enter zip code 18356 into Zillow you'll get houses in the Shawnee area, which is part of "greater East Stroudsburg". The zip for East Stroudsburg is 18301 which includes Shawnee and other areas, but I would recommend the Shawnee area for its semi-rural feel but with proximity to the DWG bridge, supermarkets and medical facilities. I live on a state road with no HOA in sight.
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Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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