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View Poll Results: Would you vote for Chris Doherty for mayor if the election were held today?
Yes 17 33.33%
No 34 66.67%
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Sheeptown, USA
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So far in the first couple of days of the Obama's administration, he has elected to coddle terrorists, advocate the killing of babies and Federally fund Frankenstein (screwing around with genetic stem cells). Government intervention is the main cause of our economic problems right now. Now we're all supposed to believe the government is the do all, be all of a bad economy.
While watching the canonization of Obama on Tuesday, I couldn't help remembering these words.. "So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause".

Well you can't blame me, I didn't vote for him.
Wonderful first few days!!! That's what he wants, the government to interfere with everything we do, hence socialism---Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society to attain such status. Therefore socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.

I don't vote for him either, don't blame me!!!!!

 
Old 01-24-2009, 08:42 AM
 
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I hear what you're saying George and agree with you 100%. We can't all run for public office and try to fix everything that is wrong on a local, state or even federal level. We all have opinions, everyone's got one like you know what, and no matter who's in office there will be people who will agree and there will be some who disagree. This country will never be truly united, and I'm not just talking about people's race and sexual preference. There will be the ones who support Obama and the ones like myself, John and Dan that do not support him and his radical views and policies. Many didn't support Bush and didn't stand by him when he was President? So why should I stand by Obama when I don't care for his socialist, liberal policies? I'm not attacking him as a person, I'm just questioning things he has done in his first few days in office.
You're right Ed, our country will never be truly "united" as much as "pipe dreamers" like me like to hope for.... I "liken" it to the bible story "The Tower Of Babel"....& we know what happened there.... (except here we're in the Tower Of Babble"...)

My point is, when Bush was elected, I wasn't happy...he was definitely not my choice of President. BUT...I respected the win & gave him the chance to prove his mettle without p*ssing & moaning on his every move...

In one of my old songs I wrote about musicians & when they become "stars", I wrote the line "...as you walk the high-wire, all eyes are glued to your every stride..." That encompassed both the positive "people watching your talent staying on the wire" as WELL as the negative "people waiting for you to fall".

I see SO many people watching for the fall.....
 
Old 01-24-2009, 08:52 AM
 
Location: John From Scranton
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Wonderful first few days!!! That's what he wants, the government to interfere with everything we do, hence socialism---Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society to attain such status. Therefore socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.

I don't vote for him either, don't blame me!!!!!

I think alot of other's think some of us are watching for some kind of fall?? Im not watching for a fall.... Im seeing it RIGHT NOW... With my own 2 eye balls!!
 
Old 01-24-2009, 08:58 AM
 
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Sheeptown, USA
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Now he has angered more people with his views about religion. In his inaugural address, President Barack Obama celebrated America as a "nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers." Some Christians are taking issue with the approach to inclusiveness, saying the president misrepresented America's culture and heritage. You think?????
 
Old 01-24-2009, 09:13 AM
 
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Now he has angered more people with his views about religion. In his inaugural address, President Barack Obama celebrated America as a "nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers." Some Christians are taking issue with the approach to inclusiveness, saying the president misrepresented America's culture and heritage. You think?????
"Non-believers" make up a percentage of our tax base & are paying citizens of our country. Though I may not understand their "non-belief", they have the right to not believe (what our country was founded on....freedom).

I wanna see 1 President or 1 Prime Minister or 1 King or 1 Queen or 1 Emperor that's NOT gonna anger SOMEONE at some point!!

Seems if someone doesn't take a crap the way others think they should, someone gets angry!!
 
Old 01-24-2009, 09:18 AM
 
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Now he has angered more people with his views about religion. In his inaugural address, President Barack Obama celebrated America as a "nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers." Some Christians are taking issue with the approach to inclusiveness, saying the president misrepresented America's culture and heritage. You think?????
No, I don't.

Religious freedom is another bedrock principle that this nation is built on. That is our heritage, that is what makes this country so special, not the heritage of our most dominant religious group. If he wanted to single out the large role that Christians play, then that's one thing. But he didn't. He used to it to highlight our constitutional freedom to believe whatever we want (including nothing at all), and to highlight our history as a nation of diverse people. I can see how those points are lost in our relatively homogenous area.
 
Old 01-24-2009, 09:20 AM
 
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Some Christians are taking issue with the approach to inclusiveness, saying the president misrepresented America's culture and heritage. You think?????
How so? Instead of just tossing out a soundbyte, how about elaborating on why you feel this is so instead of just agreeing with it.

See? No name calling. Just a request that you expand on a thought, because I'm a Christian, and I do not take issue at all with it. Just wondering why I should be is all. Convince me. State your position rather than someone else's.
 
Old 01-24-2009, 09:30 AM
 
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Dan!!! Dan!!! Help Dan!!!!!!
 
Old 01-24-2009, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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"The Liberals are coming!", "The Liberals are coming!", "The Liberals are coming!" You guys sound like a worse broken record than the Legion of Loons! Well, guess what? I happen to be more to the left of center (for obvious reasons), and I am pro-life except in cases where the mother's health and well-being may be compromised by giving birth. Nevertheless I have a friend whose girlfriend has had multiple abortions, and I don't give it a second thought. What THEY decide to do is THEIR business---it has no bearing on me whatsoever. EnyaGirl has a very important point as well. Just where exactly does "life" begin? Is it at conception? Is it when a zygote is is turning into an embryo? Is it when the little bundle of joy finally comes flying out of a woman's va-jay-jay? We don't really know for sure. As a Christian I believe only God knows this, and the reason why I'm opposed to abortion on a personal level is because we don't precisely know when an unborn child is capable of feeling and enduring physical or emotional pain. Yes, let's vaporize a zygote "because it's not a human yet," but I'll be damned if I'll let that happen if scientific research eventually proves that this "zygote" CAN experience pain. How inhumane of us to inflict torture upon that little boy- or girl-to-be merely out of our own convenience's sake.

This gets me off on a tangent to another issue (which I'm sure John From Scranton will call me out on because it never fails to get his panties in a bunch). We always hear the tragedy of how there are too many children in the world today without a loving home. At the same time many states are making it tougher and tougher and TOUGHER to adopt. Let's take the highly-intelligent state we know as Arkansas as a prime example. Voters there recently approved a measure that will ban single individuals and same-sex partners from adopting, meaning that only married couples can have this privilege of raising a child. Why? I don't personally know of any children who grew up being raised by same-sex parents (probably because it's so DIFFICULT for same-sex couples to adopt in the first place), but I've researched the topic thoroughly enough to see that there are apparently no negative long-term emotional complications in the case studies I examined. Contrary to the belief of right-wingers, gay couples don't beget gay children. "Gayness" doesn't rub off on people (Hell, if it did I can think of a few straight peers of mine on campus I'd seduce in a millisecond!) In similar fashion heterosexuality can't be "taught" to people. I grew up in a right-of-center household where I could only grimace at a lot of gay jokes being tossed around at family gatherings. Nevertheless I evolved into the alternative human being I am today despite prayer, a suicide attempt, and years of deep depression. So what? Who cares?! My point is that one's sexual orientation, contrary to what Republicans want you to believe, is INHERENT to an individual. Why would one want to "choose" to be gay anyways in a nation where we're still viewed as being sub-par people?

As far as the other side of that Arkansas ballot measure is concerned, I DO know of a number of individuals raised by single parents, and the results are mixed. Some are upstanding individuals who are more articulate, compassionate, and understanding than I could ever aspire to be. Others went down a disastrous path of substance abuse. What do we learn from this? Absolutely nothing! Why, may you ask? I also know peers from married parents who took both paths as well. As we can see with the occasional drug busts at Abington Heights, even the children of attorneys, nuclear physicists, cardiac surgeons, rocket scientists, etc. tumble down into rebellion. That's not the fault of the parents. I've known some wonderful middle-aged people who beget peers of mine who are just AWFUL. I can also say just the opposite. Generalizing does us no good.
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