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Old 08-24-2009, 12:26 PM
 
Location: NE PA
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Where did I say anything about hard work somehow being bad? I didn't. I said that hard work is not rewarded as it should be in this country.

Working 40-50 hrs per week is one thing.. Working 60+ is quite another.

Money isn't everything.
Its not everything, but you do what you have to do to provide for your family.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:29 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Actually, Rush has lost 85 lbs. and looks great!
yo yo enormous gain and loss is part of the compulsive profile.
trust me he is a sick puppy, 20 million adore him scary stuff.
if 20 million were this faithful to unions we would have no problems. no illegal immigration no wage cuts no layoffs.
it took france enormous suffering and a revolution to see that the corporate elite & government are not their friends
even now young people in france about to graduate from school are demonstrating with the unions to fight anti labor laws
millions of immigrants legal and illegal waiting in the isles to snatch up the jobs the students hope to get when they graduate.
they beat up the students and burn their cars.
the unions are the only ones that care about the french people.
let us hope americans are smarter.

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Old 08-24-2009, 12:33 PM
 
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i understand the rich self serving behavior. what i do not understand is the lower middle class hatred of unions. unions brought us affluence, and their absence will remove it. how many daily CDF posts demanding action from government HR and EEOC for what are clearly valid grievances all meeting with a deaf ear.
some unions maybe, but ive seen plenty of unions that charged dues and did ****. All it really protected were the very top percent of "seniority" workers.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:34 PM
 
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Its not everything, but you do what you have to do to provide for your family.

And providing for one's family takes more than financial form.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:39 PM
 
Location: NE PA
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some unions maybe, but ive seen plenty of unions that charged dues and did ****. All it really protected were the very top percent of "seniority" workers.
Also, these days with unions, if you're a good worker, you don't need them...but they prevent employers from letting lazy slugs and incompetent workers go. They take your dues and spend the money making themselves rich and sending out liberal political propaganda.

We're not in the coal mines anymore.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:58 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Also, these days with unions, if you're a good worker, you don't need them...but they prevent employers from letting lazy slugs and incompetent workers go. They take your dues and spend the money making themselves rich and sending out liberal political propaganda.

We're not in the coal mines anymore.
"if i am a good worker and honest man i will be treated fairly by my boss and the government". how many people have i defended with that mind set? how many. 21 million illegal immigrants here looking for work. our government does not know how they got here or where they work.
ok ok so what is mr bossman guna do, if he can hire an ok carpenter for 10 bucks an hour no benefits and speaks a lil english or joe smith worlds greatest carpenter for 50 bucks an hr with great benefits whats he guna do?
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:04 PM
 
Location: NE PA
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"if i am a good worker and honest man i will be treated fairly by my boss and the government". how many people have i defended with that mind set? how many. 21 million illegal immigrants here looking for work. our government does not know how they got here or where they work.
ok ok so what is mr bossman guna do, if he can hire an ok carpenter for 10 bucks an hour no benefits and speaks a lil english or joe smith worlds greatest carpenter for 50 bucks an hr with great benefits whats he guna do?
But if Joe Smith shows up to work drunk or sits around smoking cigarettes or reading the paper all day, they can't get rid of him because of a union contract.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:09 PM
 
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I was looking at the results on tax statistics...
New data released by the IRS offers interesting insights into the spread of the federal income tax burden, new analysis by the Tax Foundation shows. that the top-earning 25% of taxpayers (AGI over $62,068) earned 67.5% of the nation's income, but they paid more than(86% of all the federal taxes collected. The top 1% of taxpayers (AGI over $364,657) earned approximately 21.2% of the nation's income (as defined by AGI), yet paid 39.4% of all federal income taxes. That means the top 1% of tax returns paid about the same amount of federal individual income taxes as the bottom 95% of tax returns.


those earning as husband ands wife 35,000 or higher which is 1/2 of america paid 98% of all the taxes.

the other 50% of the country only paid 2% of the taxes,...thats pretty scarey that half the country accounts for 98% of the taxes paid and the other 1/2 only 2%.
i bet the 2% half is the group that complains about taxes the most.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:13 PM
 
Location: southern california
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But if Joe Smith shows up to work drunk or sits around smoking cigarettes or reading the paper all day, they can't get rid of him because of a union contract.
the reason the people are not eating and not taking care of themselves is because they are lazy and drunk.
signed
marie antoinette
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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some unions maybe, but ive seen plenty of unions that charged dues and did ****. All it really protected were the very top percent of "seniority" workers.
Correct to a point, last hired , first fired.... and your point is?
No one wants to see a layoff or reduction, but if it happens should it be any other way...being all other things equal? {performance/skill/production?}
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