03-03-2008, 03:17 AM
Location: Greater Scranton Area
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Originally Posted by
rlinda
Wow So Much To Say But Most Are Right About It Not Being A Good Place To Live Anymore. I Live In The K Section For Over 15 Years And Have Raised 2 Sets Of Children Here. 1st Marriage Children Grew Up In New Neighborhood, Low Crime Decent School And Lots Of Fresh Air, Grown And Gone. Now Second Set Of Children, Have To Deal With, Faultering Over Crowded Schools, Lack Of Community Activities , Security With Guns. The Dues Are Anyone's Guess Why The Continue To Up By Hundreds Of Dollars Over The Years. On A Good Note We Finally Have A "real" Garbage Company Coming Out On A Timely Basis For A Change.
rlinda,
I'm sorry to hear that your piece of the American Dream turned into a nightmare in only 15 years.
The reason why the dues keep climbing like that is because of the defaulted/foreclosed homes. It looks like as of December 2007, your dues were around $960 annually.
As of five minutes ago, 37 listings in PCP are foreclosure resales. That's $35,520 that is either missing from the budget now or will be soon! I don't know if you want to know the next statistic...
From 02/28/07 through 02/29/08 there were 63 foreclosure resales in PCP...$60,480 GONE from the operating budget! That doesn't even put a candle to the amount of homeowners delinquent with their dues...figure around $120,000 total.
With 3,700 homes w/ permits in PCP, that would mean an increase of $30-40 annually just because of foreclosures and delinquencies.
This is the crux of my anti-PUD stance. Many homebuyers are never made aware of what a disaster PUD & Condo forms of home ownership can become.
rlinda, I am not a negative person. The going-ons in PCP just make my head spin around in circles. Since someone started this thread about making an investment decision, in PCP, I felt the need to opine and get the dues mess out in the open.
By the way, there were 81 foreclosures that sold 02/28/06 through 02/28/07 (that's 43% of the foreclosures in the entire Pocono Mountain School District, and, 113% of the foreclosure amount for all of Lackawanna County).
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Reason: 2006 foreclosure amount
03-14-2008, 08:35 AM
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Hi All,
03-14-2008, 09:25 PM
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Seems that most of the people buying up these homes are investors and they are renting out to Section 8. It is getting worse there every day and I do not see how this place could ever be turned around unless you kicked out 80% of the population!
Here's the latest for you to read about PCP and rest assured, this house is not what it looks to be. It had 3 apts in it, is in a slummy area and is built with fake stone work. Just another dump in a dump.
Tobyhanna raid reveals dogs, guns, marijuana - poconorecord.com - The Pocono Record
Why do you think there are so many houses for sale in there and why are they so cheap? Cuz NO ONE wants them that knows better! You move to PCP and buy a house and man, you are stuck! The slum of the Poconos will take you down.
Please, for your own well being and future, avoid this ghetto at all costs.
Oh one more thing- there were NO building codes in place when almost all of these houses were put up. They are built with the cheapest material, many short cuts taken, and are just plain not good houses.
Run, not walk, from PCP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-17-2008, 08:25 AM
Location: Sunshine N'Blue Skies
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[quote=Arnmrn93;3136177]Hi All,
03-27-2008, 06:07 PM
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Slum?
That's rather harsh...People's threshholds or perceptions differ on any subject. To some, Bev Hills is a slum...Maybe where you live in local yokel SC is a slum. The only loud music I'll hear is maybe a passing car. I know of many communities that are worse way worse than PCP but don't get the "talk". How about this? I've been in the Walmart in big time East Stroudsburg and have never ever felt "safe" day or night. I have been to the Walmart in Mount Pocono day and night and have never feared anything once. If you really want to know how bad or skanky anywhere is check out the local "Marts" of any kind whether it be Shoprite, Pathmark, Mr. Zees Kmart anything. Stop being a follower and stop listening to all the crap you hear or see. Maybe someone is saying the same thing about you
03-27-2008, 06:14 PM
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Cheap Houses in PCP
DUH...They're cheap so all the investors who have been lurking around PA for a half century or so can sell, resell, resell resell and so on. There are 4900 lots approx 3900 with homes in PCP...Big Place....So, let's do the math...if this is a big place and a small percentage of people get into scrapes, how many is that vs a town that has 1000 lots with a small percentage of trouble. I've learned from (stats) a town nearby on the way to Mt airy is way way worse than PCP. Do the math...its nothing more than common sense. PS If you want to get twice the house you'd get in sburg then dig up the common sense. You'll get a crap hole down there for twice the price if not more and still have more crime. Check out big stores.........have a nice day...rest your brain PSS. What we need to get into PCP is homeowners who are willing to get a home for a lower price instead of only investors buying them, patching them up and not giving a crap who they rent or sell it to.
03-27-2008, 10:31 PM
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slum
Yes Maggie, I said SLUM and I stand by it. I lived there and I know a slum when I see it. Not being able to walk your dog in broad daylight and listening to the beat of rap music and having it shake your house windows, falling down houses, gangs, groups of kids not moving out of the middle of the road and daring you to hit them, shopping at Carriage square- geez- never felt very safe there! Kids on street corners trying to sell Pit Bull pups, kids pelting the deer with rocks and having no respect for the wild life, kids living in the streets while the parents are in NY, unkempt properties, need I say more?
04-19-2008, 07:13 PM
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omg did we make a big mistake??
i am hoping for the best. please someone give me some positive about pcp please!!!!! we just put a deposit on a home there, moving from staten island, new york and i am horrified in everything i am reading about this place. i wanted a place where i thought my grandson who is 3 can grow up in a safe and happy environment, and all i read about is drugs, gangs, gunshots, etc. too late for me to back out now (i signed a year lease with the option to buy) but i hope and pray that half these people are making things bigger than what they are! my family never lived in a ghetto atmosphere, and dont plan to start now. thing is, when we made the trip there, and looked around, i did not get the impression that everyone is stating. so please, if theres anything positive to say, please say it just to set my mind at ease..........
04-19-2008, 07:51 PM
Location: Drama Central
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Will this help.......
PCP pizza robbery
Two Monroe teens charged in pizza delivery robbery
04-19-2008, 08:18 PM
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to Jeterific..I wish you only the best with your "time" in PCP....I would certainly try to
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People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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i am hoping for the best. please someone give me some positive about pcp please!!!!! we just put a deposit on a home there, moving from staten island, new york and i am horrified in everything i am reading about this place. i wanted a place where i thought my grandson who is 3 can grow up in a safe and happy environment, and all i read about is drugs, gangs, gunshots, etc. too late for me to back out now (i signed a year lease with the option to buy) but i hope and pray that half these people are making things bigger than what they are! my family never lived in a ghetto atmosphere, and dont plan to start now. thing is, when we made the trip there, and looked around, i did not get the impression that everyone is stating. so please, if theres anything positive to say, please say it just to set my mind at ease..........
