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Old 05-25-2009, 11:22 PM
 
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It doesn't matter where this person was from, what his circumstances were... it really doesn't matter "who started it". What matters is that a person was killed? Even if he instigated the fight, those boys could have walked away. It takes a bigger person to walk away from a fight!! They definitely deserved a harsher punishment!
They tried to walk away, he pursued them, attacked them, hit them from behind.

 
Old 05-30-2009, 05:11 AM
 
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Default Schuylkill County Tirade

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Let me say, first of all, that I am a white man that does NOT support illegal immigration, but with that being said, my stomach turned when I first heard that these two MURDERERS from Shenandoah were found innocent of murder after blatantly KICKING A MAN TOO DEATH in "KKK-andoah". In a trial that would have made O.J. Simpson raise HIS eyebrows, these two murderous punks will probably spend less then two years in prison,for MURDERing another man!!! They were only charged with simple assault. These two white kids are apparently two well known, football players in a small hick town that worships high school football players when the townspeople are not burning crosses. I didn't know this can happen in America in 2009!!! This is an outrage and a complete embarrassment for Schuylkill County and NEPA as a whole. I don't care how you feel about illegal immigration, this is MURDER anyway you cut it, and these MURDERERS should be spending the rest of thier lives in prison Shame on you Schuylkill County. You sicken all of us in NEPA!!!
Funny that this story wasn't as sensationalized. I guess when the perpetrators are black and the victims are white it's not a hate crime. I hope I never get raped with a chair leg while my boyfriend is sodomized in front of me by five black men. I sure hope my body doesn't ending up mutilated and in a trash can. I sure hope my murders burn fancy crosses so that the media can trump up racialism to keep us all in line. Congratulations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_...stopher_Newsom

Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. The two University of Tennessee students were on a date when they were carjacked by 5 black men. They were taken to a house where they were held. Christopher was raped, doused with gasoline, shot and his body dumped on the side of rail road tracks. Channon had a household cleaner poured down her throat and was raped repeatedly. Mutilated, brutalized She, too, was murdered. Although the two were white and their alleged attackers black, police say race was not an element in this case.

According to news reports, Christian and Newsom had gone on a date at a local restaurant on Saturday, January 6, 2007, but did not return home. During their night out, the couple was "hijacked, bound and blindfolded and taken back to Lemaricus Devall 'Slim' Davidson's rented house on Chipman Street."
Christian's parents found her abandoned two blocks away from the Chipman Street house the following Monday with the help of her mobile phone provider. An envelope recovered from the vehicle yielded fingerprint evidence that led police to Lemaricus Davidson and 2316 Chipman Street. When police went to the address on Tuesday, January 9, they found the home unoccupied and Christian's body in a trash can in the kitchen.
According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly raped and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire. Christian's death would come only after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Christian suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution - all while Christian was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Christian died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said.
 
Old 05-30-2009, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Sheeptown, USA
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Once again, please read the court testimony. The boys did walk away more than once, and the victim chased after them and started the fight again.
Yes. I don't know why people can't see this. I love how this gets turned into a hate crime just because they were white and he was Hispanic. The media loves to churn out a controversy, and we're supposed to feel bad for him.

And where has Magritte25 been? I guess she can't take the heat from this forum.
 
Old 06-01-2009, 08:32 AM
 
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Yes. I don't know why people can't see this. I love how this gets turned into a hate crime just because they were white and he was Hispanic. The media loves to churn out a controversy, and we're supposed to feel bad for him.

And where has Magritte25 been? I guess she can't take the heat from this forum.

I took a break. I can "take the heat" but chose not to get into an argument with Retired Law. Not worth it. This board is not that .... flame worthy...LOL

That is also the reason for the numerous deleted posts on the other thread. I deleted them. Not mods. Except for the one where I said, "What the hell"....
 
Old 06-01-2009, 08:33 AM
 
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Funny that this story wasn't as sensationalized. I guess when the perpetrators are black and the victims are white it's not a hate crime. I hope I never get raped with a chair leg while my boyfriend is sodomized in front of me by five black men. I sure hope my body doesn't ending up mutilated and in a trash can. I sure hope my murders burn fancy crosses so that the media can trump up racialism to keep us all in line. Congratulations.

Murder of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. The two University of Tennessee students were on a date when they were carjacked by 5 black men. They were taken to a house where they were held. Christopher was raped, doused with gasoline, shot and his body dumped on the side of rail road tracks. Channon had a household cleaner poured down her throat and was raped repeatedly. Mutilated, brutalized She, too, was murdered. Although the two were white and their alleged attackers black, police say race was not an element in this case.

According to news reports, Christian and Newsom had gone on a date at a local restaurant on Saturday, January 6, 2007, but did not return home. During their night out, the couple was "hijacked, bound and blindfolded and taken back to Lemaricus Devall 'Slim' Davidson's rented house on Chipman Street."
Christian's parents found her abandoned two blocks away from the Chipman Street house the following Monday with the help of her mobile phone provider. An envelope recovered from the vehicle yielded fingerprint evidence that led police to Lemaricus Davidson and 2316 Chipman Street. When police went to the address on Tuesday, January 9, they found the home unoccupied and Christian's body in a trash can in the kitchen.
According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly raped and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire. Christian's death would come only after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Christian suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution - all while Christian was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Christian died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said.

That is disgusting. What did the five men get, jail time wise? Punishment?

I never argued that this was a hate crime. I have repeatedly stated that I believe the jury decided the way they did because of the fact that the victim was an illegal, hispanic alien and the accused were local yokels.

Quite different than a hate crime.
 
Old 06-01-2009, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Sheeptown, USA
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I took a break. I can "take the heat" but chose not to get into an argument with Retired Law. Not worth it. This board is not that .... flame worthy...LOL

That is also the reason for the numerous deleted posts on the other thread. I deleted them. Not mods. Except for the one where I said, "What the hell"....
Oh, you're back. I didn't want to see you go. I thought you brought something different to the forum. We may disagree on a lot of topics, but I like your style and spunk.
 
Old 06-01-2009, 03:57 PM
 
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Oh, you're back. I didn't want to see you go. I thought you brought something different to the forum. We may disagree on a lot of topics, but I like your style and spunk.
Thanks!
 
Old 06-06-2009, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Near Hazleton
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Still didn't deserve to die. The teens still should have been charged and convicted with involuntary manslaughter. Period.
Then your problem is with the District Attorney. He removed both manslaughter options from the table. The jury did not have that as a choice.
 
Old 06-23-2009, 10:01 PM
 
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Default Sick bastard

these immigrant workers are the one paying taxes and not doing their imcome tax to get any returns, therefore, the state is keeping all their unclaimed money to help support the social security your grandmother is receiving, you idiot. according to the state, if all these people where to claim their money, the ss will go bankrupt. You just talk without knowing the facts. But of course that is expected of someone who has everything available and does not have to struggle. THese are hard working people and do not rely on the government for everything like white, black and mexican americans do. Get educated you idiot of a white piece of ssshhh!!!

your new best friend, yes because i will tell you the truth and not let you go living the rest of your life ignorant








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Glad someone else can see beyond the media hype. According to the facts that I have read, this "poor victim" started the fight after a comment was made to his 15-year-old pregnant girlfriend, the comment had nothing to do with his race, and the boys were walking away when he ran back up to them and hit one of them in the back of the head, restarting the fight which eventually led to his death. While I certainly agree that it's a shame that he died, he also had the choice to walk away and did not.

But all of the bleeding hearts can feel good about the fact that his four illegitimate children (don't forget, his supposed fiance already has three children with him and is the half sister of the fifteen year old girlfriend) will be US citizens and will most likely live off us taxpayers for the rest of their lives.
 
Old 06-23-2009, 10:16 PM
 
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These black people should be in jail for the rest of their lives like the PA boys. according to witnesses there were racial remarks said to Ramirez. Or did you not listen to everything said?



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Originally Posted by Tiffany3 View Post
Funny that this story wasn't as sensationalized. I guess when the perpetrators are black and the victims are white it's not a hate crime. I hope I never get raped with a chair leg while my boyfriend is sodomized in front of me by five black men. I sure hope my body doesn't ending up mutilated and in a trash can. I sure hope my murders burn fancy crosses so that the media can trump up racialism to keep us all in line. Congratulations.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom]Murder of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. The two University of Tennessee students were on a date when they were carjacked by 5 black men. They were taken to a house where they were held. Christopher was raped, doused with gasoline, shot and his body dumped on the side of rail road tracks. Channon had a household cleaner poured down her throat and was raped repeatedly. Mutilated, brutalized She, too, was murdered. Although the two were white and their alleged attackers black, police say race was not an element in this case.

According to news reports, Christian and Newsom had gone on a date at a local restaurant on Saturday, January 6, 2007, but did not return home. During their night out, the couple was "hijacked, bound and blindfolded and taken back to Lemaricus Devall 'Slim' Davidson's rented house on Chipman Street."
Christian's parents found her abandoned two blocks away from the Chipman Street house the following Monday with the help of her mobile phone provider. An envelope recovered from the vehicle yielded fingerprint evidence that led police to Lemaricus Davidson and 2316 Chipman Street. When police went to the address on Tuesday, January 9, they found the home unoccupied and Christian's body in a trash can in the kitchen.
According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly raped and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire. Christian's death would come only after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Christian suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution - all while Christian was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Christian died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said.
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