05-18-2009, 08:27 PM
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We're not , we have agreed it is "adults"; but keep in mind your neighbor may need to get up @ 4 am..... and you would not want him disrespecting your sleep after a night out.
But what is so different about a train going by at 4am? Not too much IMO. Getting woken up is getting woken up. Both things waking me up would **** me off.
05-18-2009, 08:28 PM
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That is pathetic. Must want to relive their youth or something. Loud motorcycles are also annoying. How are they allowed to drive them with no mufflers and if you had a car with no muffler you would get fined? Some motorcycles I hear are even louder than those booming car stereos.
Meh. Maybe they finally have the money to do it. I think the old guys driving around in their convertibles are silly, but hey it's their money....
05-18-2009, 08:30 PM
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NY...you have always made sense in your posts. Yes, free speech is not an inherent right, you can not say anything anywhere, like yelling Fire in a moviehouse. Absolutely, right about disturbing the peace and that is why many communities have rules and regulations and towns and villages have ordinances. I love loud music in my car with my MP3 player or my windows up in the car. It comes down to the respect of others and their surroundings.
Actually.....
Free Speech IS an inherent right. I think you meant to say that all speech is not free speech, which I agree with. But the area made the precedent that unless you are threatening someone's life, what you say for the most part, is covered by free speech.
Which I happen to agree with.
05-18-2009, 08:36 PM
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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But what is so different about a train going by at 4am? Not too much IMO. Getting woken up is getting woken up. Both things waking me up would **** me off.
The train is more like white noise....but I never lived next to trains...in Pittston you can hear the trains and whistle.....but not through your guts and brain.
It's the low bass, like JG said, it penetrates and sets up internal vibrations as in feel the bass...people just need to turn down the low frequencies...but you and I know they do it for attention/show off...otherwise the windows would be up , the volume reasonable...and they can jam away cause nobody cares...except when my house feels like I'm living in a tuning fork...lol...
05-18-2009, 08:38 PM
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Like I said, I lived next door to train tracks for the better part of 14 years. It's nothing like white noise. Your whole house shakes, the whistles and horns are L-O-U-D LOUD. I've known people who have grown up in the country that think normal street traffic is intrusive.
05-18-2009, 08:46 PM
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Like I said, I lived next door to train tracks for the better part of 14 years. It's nothing like white noise. Your whole house shakes, the whistles and horns are L-O-U-D LOUD. I've known people who have grown up in the country that think normal street traffic is intrusive.
Your train experience sounds like my bass experience; keep in mind my neighbor's house is less than 20 feet away...the car 10 feet from bedroom...closer than your train. The tracks were also already there so you knew.... we agree to disagree... depends on which side of the car you are on...lol...but missing work...is not just an annoyance...it's your health and livelihood.
05-19-2009, 03:32 AM
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Go Phillies and NY Rangers, I am with you. It's like beatnig a dead horse.
05-19-2009, 04:08 AM
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Go Phillies and NY Rangers, I am with you. It's like beatnig a dead horse.
I know Hat, I know. The train argument doesn't fit here. The trains for the most part have been there for years and people know that when they move into a neighborhood. They actually perform a purpose, loud or not. These people with the booming car stereos CHOOSE to blast that garbage and annoy others. I mean do they REALLY need it that loud to shake windows and walls in people's houses. Like PITTSTON2SARASOTA stated, why do these people insist on having the windows open on their car, but I suspect it would be just as loud with them up. And it's not about us being "old farts". Like George stated also, I love loud music. I have been to many heavy rock concerts in all different venues my entire life. Loud music doesn't bother me, it's just that's there is a time and a place for it. I don't subject other people to my music and I don't like being subjected to their "so-called music". In the end, it's a respect issue.
05-19-2009, 06:05 AM
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They should be fined!!!! period. Repeat offenders fined progressively more.....let's be blunt....they really do it on purpose to annoy people...talking planes, trains etc. is ridiculous and skirting the issue...and an ambulance.... ppllease. We all know how some people can be...There are people who just like to argue...people who get pleasure out of another person's misery....and people who like annoying other people...cause their special.
05-19-2009, 06:19 AM
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They should be fined!!!! period. Repeat offenders fined progressively more.....let's be blunt....they really do it on purpose to annoy people...talking planes, trains etc. is ridiculous and skirting the issue...and an ambulance.... ppllease. We all know how some people can be...There are people who just like to argue...people who get pleasure out of another person's misery....and people who like annoying other people...cause their special.
I think they should be outlawed completely. It's a safety issue concerning noise. Just if I was riding around in a car with no muffler. It would be annoying to me and others and I would be fined if I didn't get it fixed.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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