government surveillance in Wilkes-Barre? (vacation, horses, rain)

[DavidWebb]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

You're right, it doesn't. But considering OnStar isn't being used or marketed or even made by the Feds, I would say that your reply is a non sequitur.

You'd be surprised at the myriad companies the Fed's (NSA, CIA, FBI, Secret Service, etc.) are funding. I wouldn't be surprised if OnStar was one of them. US AID, used during the VietNam war, is one example.

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by DavidWebb

You'd be surprised at the myriad companies the Fed's (NSA, CIA, FBI, Secret Service, etc.) are funding. I wouldn't be surprised if OnStar was one of them. US AID, used during the VietNam war, is one example.

Proof please?

[W-B proud]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

Proof please?

I believe him. The Fed's have always been involved in covert activities.

[DavidWebb]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

Proof please?

Just Google Project Pheonix, US AID, or anything Fed related...don't be blind to what supposedly "our" government tells you or CNN for that matter. Ted Turner is owned by the White House. That's no secret. Don't go through life with horse blinder's on like so many others in the U.S. Them guy's in the White House and the 3 letter agencies are just as dirty as the criminals they try to capture around the world.

[Magritte25]

I'm not blind. I'm also not a conspiracy theorist.

[DavidWebb]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

I'm not blind. I'm also not a conspiracy theorist.

Neither am I a conspiracy theorist. But I am a veteran of the United States Navy and I do know that all isn't as it seems in this world. But anyways.....

[Vinny536]

Originally Posted by EnyaGirl

Unless you're planning on doing something unlawful, I don't see a reason to be bothered by it. People complain about the crime and not enough cops on the street. This is a way to have more eyes out there. I fully support it!

I disagree. All the cameras do is make the criminal wear a mask. People will still be beaten, murdered and raped with cameras. Cameras never step in to stop a situation, they just create a historical account of it. the cost of technicians to maintain and monitor the system is presumably as much as a police officers salary. A police officer has a much better chance of stopping a dangerous situation than a camera does. Just look at how many stores with cameras STILL get robbed.

If I'm murdered and the killer is caught on tape I'm still dead!

[Gerania]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

I'm not blind. I'm also not a conspiracy theorist.

Satellites don't orbit the earth for the convenience of Geocachers. The internet wasn't created so that the masses could enjoy visiting CityData. Yes, I know that you know that. The average citizen finds out about some of the crazy things which governments have done 30 or 50 years after the fact when documents have been declassified.

If the CIA was slipping LSD to unsuspecting "test subjects" in the '60s, what are they doing now?

I agree with you; the cameras are not going to stop crime.

[Magritte25]

Ok, I can totally get onboard with the testing unknowing subjects thing - I could totally see gov'ts doing that.

But why the heck would the gov't care if I am driving my kids to Mickey D's or on my way to Baltimore for vacation or whatever?

[johnqpublic]

How do you think the majority of people are put on the no fly lists???? Do you know that among the employees of NSA its known as No Such Agency!!!