Help me beat these traffic citations in NoVA? (speeding, radar detector, tints, license plate cover)?

[OrangeFish]

Originally Posted by Bigfoot424

While it would have been nice he was charged with speeding and not reckless.

Very true. 20 mph over the speed limit yet still another lunatic on the roads here in Virginia.

[guy_from_internet]

Well then, sure a lot of help in this thread. I originally was to see if there were any users on here that would help me defend myself in breaking the law. Yes, I say "screw the law" and I like to find ways to beat the system, it's in my blood. But I see most people rather condemn me than help me get exonerated. Come on, where are all the other naughty outlaw citizens? :-)

Originally Posted by stpickrell

... I suspect OP gave the officer some lip...

stpickrell, I did not give the officer "some lip", your suspicion is wrong. I fully cooperated.

Originally Posted by car54

I'd be careful with the "my first offense here" line. Didn't you say you had a reckless in VA eight years ago? That stays on your VA record for eleven years (whether you had a VA drivers license or not).

Good point. I won't say "my first offense" in court. I will be careful with my words. I will say that I'm a good driver, have no points on my license, and ask for leniency. If I'm asked about prior tickets, I will say "yes" without any details. If they bring up my old citations, I will admit to them and explain. No lies, but I also won't shoot myself in the foot. Like I said, worst case, I pay the fines and get points. But it wouldn't hurt to try to get things dismissed or reduced in the process. With the screwed up justice system in this country, anything can happen. You got Casey Anthony walking on killing her daughter, R.Kelly walking on lewd sex with minors, O.J. walked the first time on killing a couple folks, NFL player Donté Stallworth kills someone drunk driving on the beach and only does less than a month in jail, but Mike Vick kills some dogs and does 2 years.... Really???

Yes, I did get a misdemeanor for reckless some 7 or 8 years ago, you can see it online in the VA Court Case system records. But my questions is, if this is still on my "record", why does my new VA license not have any points on it? How exactly does it work when you get cited in other states, like VA, with out-of-state licenses, how do charges transfer or not transfer? Can anyone provide a link to a credible source on this?

[katyusha25]

Originally Posted by guy_from_internet

Yes, I say "screw the law" and I like to find ways to beat the system, it's in my blood.

It's in your blood?

Who are you, Billy the Kid?

[justtitans]

Originally Posted by guy_from_internet

Well then, sure a lot of help in this thread. I originally was to see if there were any users on here that would help me defend myself in breaking the law. Yes, I say "screw the law" and I like to find ways to beat the system, it's in my blood. But I see most people rather condemn me than help me get exonerated. Come on, where are all the other naughty outlaw citizens? :-)


stpickrell, I did not give the officer "some lip", your suspicion is wrong. I fully cooperated.


Good point. I won't say "my first offense" in court. I will be careful with my words. I will say that I'm a good driver, have no points on my license, and ask for leniency. If I'm asked about prior tickets, I will say "yes" without any details. If they bring up my old citations, I will admit to them and explain. No lies, but I also won't shoot myself in the foot. Like I said, worst case, I pay the fines and get points. But it wouldn't hurt to try to get things dismissed or reduced in the process. With the screwed up justice system in this country, anything can happen. You got Casey Anthony walking on killing her daughter, R.Kelly walking on lewd sex with minors, O.J. walked the first time on killing a couple folks, NFL player Donté Stallworth kills someone drunk driving on the beach and only does less than a month in jail, but Mike Vick kills some dogs and does 2 years.... Really???

Yes, I did get a misdemeanor for reckless some 7 or 8 years ago, you can see it online in the VA Court Case system records. But my questions is, if this is still on my "record", why does my new VA license not have any points on it? How exactly does it work when you get cited in other states, like VA, with out-of-state licenses, how do charges transfer or not transfer? Can anyone provide a link to a credible source on this?

And that's what I'm talking about. If I was a judge and you came and ask me for leniency it would appear to me like you don't see anything that you've done wrong and you are just trying to get off on a lighter sentence. In my opinion, I think it will only make you look worse. The best thing you can do is to take full responsibility for you actions and HOPE that they give you leniency. Asking for leniency in my opinion sounds as though you think you are entitled to it. I think most people issue with this thread is not what you did but how you are reacting to what you did. If you go in with the attitude that you've done nothing wrong and you should get off easy just because then I'm certain you will only anger them. Be smart, be humble, don't ask for anything and that is probably the best you can do at this point.

[car54]

Originally Posted by guy_from_internet

...Yes, I did get a misdemeanor for reckless some 7 or 8 years ago, you can see it online in the VA Court Case system records. But my questions is, if this is still on my "record", why does my new VA license not have any points on it? How exactly does it work when you get cited in other states, like VA, with out-of-state licenses, how do charges transfer or not transfer? Can anyone provide a link to a credible source on this?

"Points" only stay on your record for 2 years, although the citation itself remains for up to 11 years....that's why your new VA license has no points on it.

As far as being cited in another State....that's hit or miss. IF the other State reports the citation to VA...you get the points that violation carries in VA. Some States are very conscientious in this regard, others seldom or ever report back to out-of-state violator's home state. Curiously, Maryland, despite it's proximity, rarely if ever reports to VA. (this is assuming you pay the ticket...all the States will report to VA if you owe them money)

As far as celebrities getting a pass....Of course they do, they have the money for the best defense lawyers. Like my dad used to like to say, "There's no millionaires on death row!"

[HokieFan]

Originally Posted by guy_from_internet

I've never had this type of problem in any other state except here, and I can't help but think my bright sports car has something to do with it.

Right...it has nothing to do with your excessive speeding, disregard for laws and need to beat the system.

[ersatz]

guy_from_internet

You're getting no love from this forum, you're getting a consensus. If you don't want to keep getting tickets, then obey the law. If you want to keep breaking the law, you will keep getting tickets and points until your license is suspended. Either move back out of Virginia or Man Up.

[FindingZen]

My apologies to those who may have viewed some inappropriate posts by the OP on this and another thread, Concerns about their behavior have been noted and will be passed on to senior moderators. At this point, it's best to close the thread.