02-12-2012, 10:10 PM
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The ironic thing about all this whining and complaining about the "exurb" Loudoun County is that it wasn't so long ago that a lot of Fairfax County (e.g. Herndon and Reston) were exurbs.
02-13-2012, 08:32 AM
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The ironic thing about all this whining and complaining about the "exurb" Loudoun County is that it wasn't so long ago that a lot of Fairfax County (e.g. Herndon and Reston) were exurbs.
People STILL complain about that. Just not as much on THIS board as elsewhere
Not everyone works downtown. Lots of people work in the Dulles and Ashburn areas. Why should they buy in Fairfax? We debated moving to Loudoun since my husband works in Ashburn, but I mostly didn't want a commute over an hour on the days I have to drive to South Fairfax.
For most of the families I know, affordability and commute are two deciding factors in home purchase. We could have moved to Brambleton or South Riding and gotten a bigger and newer house for the money, but that wasn't as important to us. We both work in the burbs, so distance to downtown isn't critical to us. We know people who made the decision to build in Brambleton recently vs. staying in Fairfax/Chantilly - he works out there and she works in Tysons.
There are some valid points to be made re: taxes, roads, businesses and the state budget. But I think that when it comes to decisions about what house you are going to buy/biggest purchase most people ever make, everyone has their list of wants and needs and then has to weigh the pros and cons of different locations. The cost of commuting for me (gas, extra miles, ridiculous toll road fees) was a HUGE con to the communities in Loudoun. But, some people are willing to deal with that for a bigger and newer house, and that is their right.
02-13-2012, 08:36 AM
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Believe it or not, I've heard that the wxyz lounge at the aloft (hotel behind the Exxon just off the LoCo Parkway exit on the Greenway) is pretty happening. They have live music, DJs, and extended happy hours; check out
their Facebook page for details. Also,
Nick's at the BTC sometimes draws a younger crowd depending on who's performing. And there's always the new-ish Village at Leesburg, which has King Pinz, Finnegans, and the Cobb Theaters, and it's not a long trip if you shoot up Belmont Ridge to Route 7.
All good recommendations. We went to the $10 brunch at Finnegans yesterday and it was hopping. I really like Finnegans, but this was the first time I tried the brunch. It was just what we wanted. Really good eggs benedict, and the potato dishes were pretty tasty too. I saw fliers for some sort of Valentine's Day jazz event there tomorrow. I may just swing by to check it out.
02-13-2012, 08:49 AM
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Loudoun County is a place you simply have to live in to "get it". I get it, got it, and we LOVE LOVE LOVE it! I make enough money to afford Fairfax. But why would I spend more for it? I just funnel that savings into retirement.
I totally agree. By the way, I work in Loudoun and used to live in Herndon, so I'm an example of a person who has commuted from Fairfax to Loudoun. These days you see people commuting in both directions. Of course now I live out near my job. Anyway, I'm another person who loves living here and sometimes wonders what took me so long to move out to Loudoun. Nothing against Herndon, I liked living there quite a bit, but I really love my new neighborhood. We'll be retiring later this year and we've been looking at properties in Rehoboth and St. Augustine, FL. You know what, we may end up just staying here after all. There are a lot of programs for seniors here, and good medical care. I could see moving into a place like Villages of Leesburg, at least for the early years of retirement.
02-13-2012, 08:59 AM
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Wait, someone lives in Woodbridge and is making fun of people in Brambleton?
02-13-2012, 09:03 AM
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The ironic thing about all this whining and complaining about the "exurb" Loudoun County is that it wasn't so long ago that a lot of Fairfax County (e.g. Herndon and Reston) were exurbs.
BTW, according to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, Loudoun is now also considered suburban, not exurban. See graphic on the second page of this (linked) PDF file
Industry dynamics in DC
This study by the Brookings Institution below backs that up, as Stephen81 noted in the thread we had on where the line is drawn between exurbs and suburbs.
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Brookings Institution did a study of exurbs in the United States in 2006. Fortunately (and unsurprisingly) for us, one of their maps was of census tracts in the DC/Baltimore metropolitan areas.
On page 18 of
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/rc/reports/2006/10metropolitanpolicy_berube/20061017_exurbia.pdf you can see a map of how they defined exurban Washington based on population density, population growth, and commuting patterns. As you thought, Caladium, the dividing line was roughly Leesburg, although Great Falls and Clifton in Ffx County qualified as exurbs, too.
Page 20 even goes so far as to say that Loudoun County, taken as a whole, has passed beyond the exurban stage of development. I would say congrats, but I'm sure not everyone would agree
02-13-2012, 09:34 AM
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But, some people are willing to deal with that for a bigger and newer house, and that is their right.
Not everyone moves west for "bigger and newer". My house is small and old. Charm, relaxation, and scenery were my biggest drivers.
02-13-2012, 09:39 AM
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Not everyone moves west for "bigger and newer". My house is small and old. Charm, relaxation, and scenery were my biggest drivers.
Same here. Former Loudeners and moved west all the way to Winchester, VA for older (1920s Arts & Crafts) although bigger and also for the charm, character, neighborhood and community, relaxation, and of course, the scenery.
02-13-2012, 09:43 AM
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Western Loudoun = de facto greenbelt between the zoning, conservation easements, etc., that are in place. You've got much smaller greenbelts in Great Falls and Clifton, however.
02-13-2012, 09:47 AM
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So I'm 26 years old and me and my fiancé just bought a house in Brambleton. Me and her personally love it, but most of our friends who are our age are always telling us "why did you guys choose to move to the boonies?"
Congratulations on the new home!
Forget what your friends are saying and honestly, they probably sound like a broken record right now. When it comes time for them to buy a home, let's see how attractive the "boonies" will be to them.
Besides, those of us further west (i..e, Leesburg, Purcellville, Berryville, etc.) have to deal with the "boonies" -- and alot of people who have never visited these areas just have stereotypes about these places.
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Anyway, with that being said, I let it get to me and my friends barely visit cause driving an hr to get here is too far. (they're from Woodbridge) . . . .
Yeah, and who wants to drive to Woodbridge? Not a contest I know but personally, I would choose to trek into Loudoun County way before anything on that side of 95 South.
One of my best friends lives in Woodbridge and she comes to visit us out in Winchester ("ultra-boonie" I suppose) to visit. Same with friends from Arlington and the Sterling-Ashburn area. If friends want to visit, they'll make the effort.
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People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
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People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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I totally agree. By the way, I work in Loudoun and used to live in Herndon, so I'm an example of a person who has commuted from Fairfax to Loudoun. These days you see people commuting in both directions. Of course now I live out near my job. Anyway, I'm another person who loves living here and sometimes wonders what took me so long to move out to Loudoun. Nothing against Herndon, I liked living there quite a bit, but I really love my new neighborhood. We'll be retiring later this year and we've been looking at properties in Rehoboth and St. Augustine, FL. You know what, we may end up just staying here after all. There are a lot of programs for seniors here, and good medical care. I could see moving into a place like Villages of Leesburg, at least for the early years of retirement.
