Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Virginia > Northern Virginia
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-15-2015, 04:21 AM
 
11 posts, read 17,377 times
Reputation: 10

Advertisements

I'm a tenant in a basement room in a single family home in Loudoun county. How to verify if I'm living in a legal basement. The landlord would not tell me the truth.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-15-2015, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Spartanburg, SC
4,899 posts, read 7,443,903 times
Reputation: 3875
Mother used to say about DC: Where you live is who you are; what you drive is what you want to be.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2015, 04:54 AM
 
239 posts, read 280,868 times
Reputation: 199
The state of VA defers to the local county in defining what a bedroom is. Here are some guidelines from Loudoun (http://www.loudoun.gov/DocumentCenter/Home/View/5442). Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

Bedrooms:
• Must contain at least 70 square feet of floor area plus an additional 50 square feet per individual if occupied by more than one person.
• Bedrooms must not be the only access to other bedrooms or habitable space and must not constitute the only exit from other habitable space.
• Every bedroom must have access to a bathroom without having to pass through another bedroom.
• Kitchens and other non-habitable space must not be used for sleeping purposes.
• Bedrooms must provide light, ventilation, room area, ceiling height and room width in conformity with the code,and must be in conformity with fire safety requirements.


4) Fire Safety Requirements Applied to Bedrooms:
• Every bedroom must have access to a bathroom without having to pass through another bedroom.
• Two means of exit must be available from a bedroom, with one being a door or window leading di- rectly to the exterior.
• Kitchens and other non-habitable space must not be used for sleeping purposes.
• The window sill must be at a maximum height of 44 inches from the floor.
• Bedrooms must provide light, ventilation, room area, ceiling heightandroomwidth inconformitywiththecode,and must be in conformity with fire safety requirements. (Please
• An exit must not lead through another sleeping area or a bathroom.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2015, 06:18 AM
 
9,875 posts, read 14,118,571 times
Reputation: 21777
Quote:
Originally Posted by pichalite View Post
The landlord would not tell me the truth.
Why do you think the LL is lying?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2015, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
5,162 posts, read 4,485,378 times
Reputation: 6336
How long have you been living there?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2015, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Spartanburg, SC
4,899 posts, read 7,443,903 times
Reputation: 3875
Quote:
Originally Posted by LynchburgLover View Post
Mother used to say about DC: Where you live is who you are; what you drive is what you want to be.

I'm sorry -- posted in wrong thread.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2015, 06:43 AM
 
11 posts, read 17,377 times
Reputation: 10
I've been living here for 10 months. There are two rooms in the underground basement and I'm living in one of them.

- In March 2015 third week, since the other room is going to be vacant end of April 2015, I asked the land lord if I may take the other room as well from May 2015 since I may have guests visiting me for a month. He happily agreed to it and gave time till Apr 7, 2015 to confirm.

- On April 5, 2015, I confirmed him via SMS text message that I would be renting the other room from May 1, 2015

- On April 10, 2015, I took back my word as I found another ground level basement that would be comfortable for me and my guests. So I informed him of not being able to rent the other room.

Per lease, a 30 day notice from 1st of month is required and he collected 1 month rent security deposit from me. So, I informed him by e-mail I would leave at end of April 2015 and he can keep my security deposit towards May 2015 rent for my room and requested him to free me of obligations for other room. He explained me last month rent is not equal to security deposit. I went through lease and understood the terms. I agreed to pay the rent for May 2015 with out me staying at the place. He would also give me back the deposit as applicable per lease.

The problem now is, LL wants me to pay the rent for other room as well for May 2015 as I confirmed and he lost prospective tenants. He is threatening me of suing using the text message on basis of cheating if I don't pay the rent for May 2015 for 2nd room. I'm trying to find my rights in this case. That is the reason I want to know if the place is legal to rent. I pay him rent through online transfer, so I'm assuming he pays taxes for it. If the place is not legal, he cannot sue me. Also, I'm concerned I may not be able sue him for my deposit. From tax assessment of the property, I see the finished basement sqft is included in total SFLA. There is no information on rental unit.

I understand in the whole episode I made mistake by taking backing word, but that is not a long enough gap to lose prospective tenants and the end of month is still 20 days. I need suggestions on how strong the SMS confirmation with out legal agreements holds good in court. Also, the rent per room per month is $600.

I wish I could update this information in original post of thread but I don't see an edit option.

Last edited by pichalite; 04-15-2015 at 06:53 AM.. Reason: Added more information
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2015, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Spartanburg, SC
4,899 posts, read 7,443,903 times
Reputation: 3875
I'd suggest you call the Loudoun government offices to see if it is permitted.

Then I would call the Loudoun Bar Association and see if there is a tenant-advocate lawyer who may work pro-bono (if you can't afford it) or for a reasonable fee.

You mention it is an "underground" basement. Does it have a direct method of egress to the outside?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2015, 07:46 AM
 
601 posts, read 592,739 times
Reputation: 344
It is legal to rent out basement bedrooms, as long as they have proper egress to outside.

Are there any perhaps unpermitted additions and finishes to the basement, such as a kitchen?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2015, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
5,162 posts, read 4,485,378 times
Reputation: 6336
Though I think that you were a little disingenuous with your first post it really is not any of my business. I just think you will get quicker and better responses if you are clear from the beginning.

I think the only thing that may save you is if you did not sign a lease for the second room.

Good luck.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Virginia > Northern Virginia

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top