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Old 08-28-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Also, I did not get my security system through ADT or similar company. I bought my own system from Elk Security. The idea is that the panel is IP-friendly and that I can easily integrate the panel with a home automation system.

Of all the wires in my house, one thing I regret that I did not do is pre-wired for automated blinds in hard to reach windows.
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Old 08-28-2015, 09:05 AM
 
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5) Moisture detection and temperature sensors

If all I have to right now is to install wiring to interface with the units above, what is the best way I can accomplish this? Maybe some options could be wireless instead.
Research Z-Wave for those sensors. Integrate the sensors with a home automation hub - Vera, SmartThing, etc. I have several Z-Wave smoke and CO2 sensors in my house. When a sensor is tripped, I have programmed the hub to automatically shut off the HVAC system, send me text message, sound alarm on the security system, and flash lights in the rooms where I have Z-Wave light switch installed.

Elk also have a Z-Wave main water shutoff valve. I am thinking about getting one to integrate with a Z-Wave moisture sensor, and/or dedicated temperature sensor.

Yes, I am a geek.
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Old 08-28-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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Here is what I did at my new house. I ran a lot of wires.
  • Two Cat 6 outlets from basement control room to every TV location. The idea is one wire for internet video streaming. Wired works much better than wireless for video streaming. The other Cat 6 wire is for a video distribution network (read up on HDBaseT) so that I can rent only one for two cable boxes and distribute signal throughout the whole house.
Isn't this far more costly than just renting another box?
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Old 08-28-2015, 11:32 AM
 
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Isn't this far more costly than just renting another box?
Depends on how long you live in the house and how many TVs. FIOS DVR box rental = $20 a month. Each cat 6 run = $65 through my builder's "approved" contractor. HDBaseT 4*4 matrix = $750.

HDBaseT equipment is still expensive. I went another route and bought Tivo Roamio + life time service = $300. Two Tivo Mini = $300. Cable card rental from FIOS = $5 a month (only one needed). The Minis use the tuner on the main Roamio box and can access recorded programs on the main box. All three Tivo devices require Ethernet cable. I now have three TVs in the house and only have to pay Verizon $5 a month to rent their equipment. The breakeven point is about one year in my case. Will be less if I add another Mini.

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Old 08-28-2015, 01:08 PM
 
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We did one ether port on each level hooked up to wifi routers. No reason to have them in everyone room unless you have a server running.. want the best ping in pc/console gaming or have old school smart tv with an ether port. TV's are wireless now..
I disagree on using wireless on streaming video. Wired is faster and much more stable than wireless. While you theoretically can get gigabit connection between the devices and the router, the total throughput of wireless router is typically < 500 MB per second and the signal is subject to interference. Interference can come from many sources including cordless phones, microwave ovens, and other wireless networks within range. Since OP is building a townhouse, I recommend hard-wired Ethernet connection at each TV location. I used to live in a townhouse and there were 20+ networks within range of my house. Wireless video streaming at the highest video quality setting was frustrating. I am an A/V enthusiast so I always want the highest quality possible.

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Old 09-11-2015, 06:44 PM
 
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Thanks everyone for their suggestions. Ultimately I went with the following options:

1) Surround sound 5.1 pre-wiring
2) 2.5" Conduit from basement to attic (standard size conduit)
3) A ethernet + Coax/Phone outlet in each room (4 were included in the home price for the builder and we couldn't go with just a ethernet outlet in some rooms as per HOA rules. Had to be 2 ports per outlet).
4) Extra recessed lights and rough-ins for ceiling fans in each room. Some pendant lights prewiring over the kitchen island.

Hoping the wireless options for the doorbell+intercom systems will work well.
Thanks.
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Old 09-11-2015, 07:02 PM
 
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The new Trend is to have outlets coming from under cabinets.

Check out under cabinet lighting and above cabinet lighting, run at least one 220v to the kitchen so you could add electric oven in the future.

Make sure to get enough outdoor outlets, ensure you are happy with the light switches. Get as many recesed lights in now as possible.
We are going with the under-cabinet lighting only in the kitchen. The builder is including a microwave and double oven the kitchen package. We got plenty of recess lights and ceiling fan roughins where we will add ceiling fan+light combo.
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Old 09-11-2015, 09:53 PM
 
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Research Z-Wave for those sensors. Integrate the sensors with a home automation hub - Vera, SmartThing, etc. I have several Z-Wave smoke and CO2 sensors in my house. When a sensor is tripped, I have programmed the hub to automatically shut off the HVAC system, send me text message, sound alarm on the security system, and flash lights in the rooms where I have Z-Wave light switch installed.

Elk also have a Z-Wave main water shutoff valve. I am thinking about getting one to integrate with a Z-Wave moisture sensor, and/or dedicated temperature sensor.

Yes, I am a geek.
Thanks. Will look into these options. The builder was offering home automation options only through Control4 for several thousand dollars. Can I build the home automation system you suggest without tearing up the drywall in the future? Thanks.
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Old 09-12-2015, 12:21 AM
 
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Ceiling fans ceiling fans ceiling fans, make sure every room has that option. It's a fantastic resale option, and a nightmare to add after the drywall goes up, especially on the main and lower living areas. I added 3 from scratch for bedrooms on our upper level a couple of years ago via the attic. Even then, it was a serious pain in the you know what. Now our house is for sale, and commentary from the market is that they love all of the ceiling fans!
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Old 09-12-2015, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Thanks. Will look into these options. The builder was offering home automation options only through Control4 for several thousand dollars. Can I build the home automation system you suggest without tearing up the drywall in the future? Thanks.
Yes. Z-Wave is a wireless protocol. Control4 is one of the home automation "hubs" that uses Z-Wave. Some DIY hubs are Vera and SmartThing.
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