I66 tolls now in effect - at times over $30 one way (Chesapeake: coupon, 2015)

[17thAndK]

Originally Posted by dkf747

I don't see why the hours need to be the same. If few cars are out at those times, they shouldn't be charging them. There's no benefit to that other than making extra bucks off of them.

What are the tolls at times when there is no traffic?

[dkf747]

Originally Posted by dkf747

1. I saw prices of $3.50 to 3.75 in the news.

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Originally Posted by 17thAndK

What are the tolls at times when there is no traffic?

Did you see my earlier post above?

[boyd888]

Originally Posted by dkf747

Don't forget that you could ride solo from the airport before now. Many solo drivers were not cheating. Today, that's not allowed. This makes the cops job easier. All they need to do is sit at the exits and nab solo drivers that way.

Most solo drivers were cheating. VDOT estimated 40% of the traffic was solo violators. The cops used to sit at the exits inside the beltway (bc that meant you weren't going to Dulles). Solo drivers pay the toll now so sitting at the exits to nab them makes less sense (unless the overhead sensors are right there).

Originally Posted by snowdenscold

I just don't understand how we were so ineffective at catching cheaters one day and so great at it the next.

Anyone who had an EZ Pass prior now automatically gets charged the toll unless they hide it or get an HOV flex and try to cheat with it. If you don't have any EZ pass you automatically get mailed the toll and a fine based on your license plate.

When someone has an EZ pass set in flex mode it sets off a light on top of the sensors that go over the highway and so a cop sitting further down can see which cars are supposed to be HOV-2 and verify when they go by. Pretty basic really

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-ap...DOT.png&w=1484

[dkf747]

Originally Posted by boyd888

Most solo drivers were cheating. VDOT estimated 40% of the traffic was solo violators. The cops used to sit at the exits inside the beltway (bc that meant you weren't going to Dulles). Solo drivers pay the toll now so sitting at the exits to nab them makes less sense (unless the overhead sensors are right there).

It may have been most, as you say, I don't know. That wasn't my point. My point was that it was harder for the cops to know who is cheating prior to the change than it is now. The chances of getting caught are higher now.

[jobber123rd]

Originally Posted by Vacanegro

Problem is that there are so few options for those commuting from far away (lots of folks). VA always puts these types of laws into effect with little real management attention to alternatives.

How do I carpool when I live in Manassas or Similar ? Where can I park and take mass transit or express bus (Vienna lot fills quickly)?
How can I be expected to pay perhaps $60 or more per day ?
How is that fair when I already pay car taxes + tolls on 66 or the Dulles Toll rd ?
Why is there no tolls in Richmond or under the bay in Newport News, despite the obvious cost of roads there ?

Anyone who takes Metro knows that it is no picnic. Did that for years in Arlington and was not easy as 50% of trains were full and cost was till significant even for my 5 miles. As soon as company paid parking was put in I started driving. There is pushback on 66 tolls for many valid reasons.

There are tolls in Richmond -- one of the main commuter routes south of the James River is a toll road (Powhite Parkway), in addition to the Downtown Expressway, Boulevard Bridge, and Pocohontas Parkway.

Newport News doesn't border the Chesapeake Bay. The Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel is tolled, and HOT lanes are planned for the upcoming expansion of the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel. Additionally, there are several tolled crossings of the Elizabeth River.

[17thAndK]

Originally Posted by dkf747

Did you see my earlier post above?

Yes, but unsourced news reports from the first days of operation were not an answer to my question.

[dkf747]

Originally Posted by 17thAndK

Yes, but unsourced news reports from the first days of operation were not an answer to my question.

I see. That's all I got. I've been too busy to check the tolls online during those times. Why don't you try that?

[Fallout Zone]

Interesting stat from that first week - a grand total of 28 people paid that $40 toll that got so much attention. The average price each day was less than the $17 round trip that VDOT had estimated because the westbound rates are much lower than expected.

[NeganGrimes]

from my experience, the average east bound rates was about $19 and the average west bound rates was about $8, that's about an average of $27 a day

[NOVAmtneer82]

I don't know whether or not this has already been shared but WTOP just released an analysis (which reads like a press blitz from VDOT) on the first four days:

https://wtop.com/dc-transit/2017/12/...lling-numbers/

They're bringing in a decent chunk of change..