03-03-2010, 02:22 PM
Location: Colorado
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I'm planning a trip in June to look at townhouse communities in Ashburn, Burke, and nearby areas. Are there many families to be found in townhouse properties, like say the Arbors at Broadlands and just townhouses in general? My mother says we'd be looked down on by families with single family houses. According to my elderly mom: townhouse, stigma. Rental (even a house in a good neighborhood), stigma. Everything I suggest, "bad". So I could use some objective opinions, please! I think some of this is true where I am in a Colorado suburb, but townhouses seem to be a much more popular housing option in nova, just like apartment buildings are popular in suburbs outside new york city, where it's understood people trade home space for shorter commutes. I don't have a sense, though, if further out in a suburb like Ashburn if we'd be the lone family in a townhouse development. I'd be renting the first year and looking to buy down the road, so I prefer to be in a community where I can afford to buy (budget up to $300-$350k).
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03-03-2010, 02:36 PM
Location: TX
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Beleive me you won't be looked down upon. Due to the high housing cost many young families live in TH's in the area. Yes Ashburn as well. There are some BEAUTIFUL TH that will blow the socks off some SFH. YOu will probably have a garage and a yard as well.
03-03-2010, 02:42 PM
Location: Loudoun County, VA
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My mother says we'd be looked down on by families with single family houses. According to my elderly mom: townhouse, stigma. Rental (even a house in a good neighborhood), stigma. Everything I suggest, "bad".
LOL!! Sorry.. but you won't be looked down on by anyone else but snooty people. Stigma my butt. And who cares about them!! We rent in a townhouse community in Ashburn (Farm) and love it. I'd say 80% of the houses have 2 or more kids in them, babies and teenagers. Good luck, I'm sure you'll love the townhouse communities.
Add: Ashburn Farm often has townhouses in your price range. I think our neighbors on both sides bought their homes in the low 300s two years ago (normal sales). These houses are about 2000sqft. One house in the neighborhood (short sale) just sold for about $270K last summer.
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03-03-2010, 02:49 PM
Location: Colorado
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That's encouraging! Here in the sw corner of littleton, the couple of mothers who've come to our townhouse had a look on their face like the actors in the movie "Bug" - you know, the eyes rolling left and right and along the ceiling. We never heard from the families again. Personally, I believe a small footprint is a good deed for the environment, but alas, I don't want to be fighting a battle where my child is the one on the front line.
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03-03-2010, 04:40 PM
Location: Brambleton, VA
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There are many, many families with children in townhouses in Brambleton.
03-03-2010, 07:21 PM
Location: Loudoun County, VA
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Ashburn Ice House is a fun place! They have all kinds of cool programs from toddlers to adult's hockey league.
And I totally agree about the small footprint!!
03-03-2010, 07:56 PM
Location: Falls Church, VA
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It is very, very common for families to live in townhouses around here. We actually lived in an apartment the first year we lived here (with our 2 year old, at the time) and I thought I'd never hear the end of it from my father. He seemed to seriously believe that one needs a SFH in order to be a respectable adult. But, once he visited here and got a load of the traffic, it suddenly clicked that it's very common to make these kinds of tradeoffs in NoVA.
03-03-2010, 08:07 PM
Location: Home is where the heart is
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Here in Lowes Island the townhouses next to Trump's Golf course are more expensive than most of the SFHs. It never occurred to me to look down on someone for a reason like that, I just think of townhouse dwellers as people who don't like yardwork. I love gardening, that's my only reason to choose the SFH.
03-03-2010, 10:01 PM
Location: Leesburg, VA
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You should also consider Cascades. The townhouses are a tad cheaper than Ashburn (you can get a decent size townhouse for under $350K...if you plan to commute alot to the DC area, Cascades might be a better choice than Ashburn since its closer to DC. There are also alot of families in the Cacades TH community. You can't go wrong though in either Cascades or Ashburn . Good luck in your search!
03-04-2010, 09:07 AM
Location: Richmond, VA
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Townhomes are a huge part of the housing make-up here in Ashburn. I live in a single family...had to have a single b/c I wanted a yard. WELL...now I wish we would have moved into a tonwhome, lol! The yard is a lot of work-even though it is only .20 of an acre, we still have to mow, do landscaping, etc. And my home was built in 1995...needs a lot of upgrading-we have been working on that but that costs a lot so its not at the rate I would like. Most of the townhomes we had looked at were newer and would not have needed the extra work.
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House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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