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Old 06-30-2010, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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That may be YOUR experience. NoVA is a huge consumer of those with Ivy League degrees (including my wife and me). I don't know where YOUR "around here" is, but we know a large number of people with degrees from top 20 schools in this region, and quite a few of them work for the government.
Fairfax County. Perhaps you have more Ivy Leaguers way out there in Loudoun.
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Old 06-30-2010, 07:57 AM
 
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As usual, you are incorrect. Bobos do not just live in NY, Boulder and the Bay Area. Those people are simply hippies or hippie-wannabes (or just libertines). Bobos also do not do drugs. If you read David Brooks' book, you'd realize that bobos combine bohemian "tolerance" and "liberation" (they're "cool" with others who smoke pot) with bourgeois limitations and self-discipline (as David Brooks writes, bobos don't drink -- they drink expensive coffee and health drinks and work out a lot). Bobos now inhabit every suburb of the country -- Brooks claims that they are now the ubiquitous upper and upper-middle class of this country.
Sorry but I don't consider David Brooks the arbiter of the zeitgeist.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:02 AM
 
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As usual, you are incorrect. Bobos do not just live in NY, Boulder and the Bay Area. Those people are simply hippies or hippie-wannabes (or just libertines).
Please post that assessment on those forums as I'd love to see the reaction. Be sure to tell them you're a "Bobo" from Northern Virginia. However, they may suggest a slightly different spelling.

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Old 06-30-2010, 08:14 AM
 
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Doubtful. Ivy league schools don't generate too many IT folks. Around here they usually come from the military, at the high levels often senior officers or officials with extensive Defense/government IT experience.
Except Brown and Cornell among others, which boast excellent computer science departments. Plus, you gotta remember it's not just defense contractors and ITs over here. The area also has a high concentration of lawyers, lobbyists and political operators. Metro DC also has a very high concentratio of physicians.

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Fairfax County. Perhaps you have more Ivy Leaguers way out there in Loudoun.
No. Actually most of those Ivy Leaguers I know live in Arlington, Alexandria, Great Falls and McLean. My wife and I are the only Ivy Leaguers in my neighborhood in Loudoun.

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Sorry but I don't consider David Brooks the arbiter of the zeitgeist.
Well, that's interesting since David Brooks coined the term "bobo." If he who invented the term and framed the definition doesn't get to decide what is described by HIS own term, I don't know who does. I guess you do.

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Please post that assessment on those forums as I'd love to see the reaction. Be sure to tell them you're a "Bobo" from Northern Virginia.
See above.

You should also realize that bobos also run in a spectrum. In some areas, you are going to find more bohemian in the bo-bo whereas in others you will find more bourgeois. NoVA, being somewhat more conservative than some metro suburbs/exurbs (or places like Burlington, VT), is going to run a bit more bougeois than bohemian on the spectrum, but the bobo traits are all there -- the granite counters and stainless steel appliances, the advanced degrees, the idea-oriented work (think tanks, government, issue advocacy and etc.), the overpriced coffee, the foreign travel/living experience and so on.

Did you even read the book that defined the term "bobo"?
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:16 AM
 
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Please post that assessment on those forums as I'd love to see the reaction. Be sure to tell them you're a "Bobo" from Northern Virginia. However, they may suggest a slightly different spelling.
Yeah? How would you spell "bobo"?

Perhaps you are confusing it with "boho."

Here, let me make it crystal clear for you:

Bobo: Bobos in Paradise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Boho: Boho-chic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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LOL, I think he meant bozo. Or possibly boob.

I'm not really buying into this bobo bit. But that's just me, cutesy little terms like that make me gag. I usually snicker at those who try to make a name for themselves by separating people into narrow little groups. I think they just enjoying coining terms that (IMO) sound pretty affected. In some ways I fit into that bobo description, in other ways I do not, and the same goes for most people I know. So IMO it's not a useful description and not a term I'll ever use. Just my two cents.

FWIW, most of the people in my Loudoun neighborhood have graduate degrees. I don't know if they're ivy leaguers, though. Despite the cliche that we're all supposed to endlessly brag about our schools I actually have no idea where most of my neighbors went to school. I just know that they have professions that require graduate level degrees.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:51 AM
 
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LOL, I think he meant bozo. Or possibly boob.
Normie, I'm "shocked, shocked I'd say" at you for suggesting that was my meaning. Although you're pretty amazingly perceptive for someone without an Ivy League degree. You can be in my Non-Ivy League Alumni Association.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:58 AM
 
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Except Brown and Cornell among others, which boast excellent computer science departments. Plus, you gotta remember it's not just defense contractors and ITs over here. The area also has a high concentration of lawyers, lobbyists and political operators. Metro DC also has a very high concentratio of physicians.

No. Actually most of those Ivy Leaguers I know live in Arlington, Alexandria, Great Falls and McLean. My wife and I are the only Ivy Leaguers in my neighborhood in Loudoun.
Agreed. Aside from the Bush Administration DOJ's recent love affair with Regent Law graduates, DOJ lawyers tend to have extremely impressive academic pedigrees, which means Ivy League or equivalent institutions. I know that State Department employees are similar in that regard.

Fairfax County is a big place, with a lot of regional differences based on race, age/type of housing stock, income, educational backgrounds, etc. "Government employee" may tend to mean "Pentagon" in Fort Hunt, but you're a lot likelier to find a foreign service officer or government lawyer in West Falls Church. My hunch would be that the closer you get to DC, the better educated people tend to be.
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Old 06-30-2010, 09:04 AM
 
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Did you even read the book that defined the term "bobo"?
Yes I have a copy here.
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Old 06-30-2010, 09:06 AM
 
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Well, that's interesting since David Brooks coined the term "bobo." If he who invented the term and framed the definition doesn't get to decide what is described by HIS own term, I don't know who does. I guess you do.
You're the one who inserted that term into the conversation, not I. I'm still calling them "yuppies" remember?
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