11-30-2010, 10:12 AM
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I think that you'll find what you are looking for in Crown Point or Valpo. But I'll throw this one out to you since you stated that your family is accustomed to private schools .. this one is suppposed to be one of the best around:
Forest Ridge Academy
11-30-2010, 10:44 AM
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Thank you, Svillechris, Chuckity, and Northwest Indiana. I appreciate everything. I have viewed homes in Munster but could not locate any that fit my price range and accomodate my wife's desires. An hour travel time to DT Chicago, IL does not bother me. I currently drive an hour to work now. Im truly impressed with Valparaiso's and Crown Point's school corporation. We perfer private schools but it appears that most include religious teachings and we feel its our job to supply religious teachings to our daughters.
One thing that does frighten me is the closeness of Gary to Merrillville, Highland, or Schererville. I honestly do not want my family shopping and or living near Gary. I apologize for my feelings to the citizens of Gary, IN, but from personal experience I desire to keep my children and wife away from there. That being said this is an excellent career opportunity for me and Valparaiso and Crown Point schools are excellent within the state of Indiana. [/SIZE][/font]
My husband commutes from Valpo to East Chicago - and that's 45 min. on a good day. Your travel time to Chicago from Crown Point or Valpo is going to be far closer and most likely over and hour and a half most days, and during winter, all bets are off. A two hour commute can be likely.
Svillechris brought up Dyer - great choice, homes within your price range and once voted one of the best communities to live ... and the commute won't kill you.
I drive thru Gary frequently ... and horrors, I sometimes stop.
And I'm a white female and haven't been beaten & robbed yet. I understand your concerns as Gary, Indiana conjurs up some visions of crime & urban decay, but the bleed over is a non-issue. Gary residents typically kill and rob Gary residents.
11-30-2010, 12:19 PM
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Chuckity is absolutely right, and this topic has been addressed before on this thread about Valpo commute times to Chicago. Depending on where you live in Valpo, you can expect a 20-25 minute drive to the Dune Park South Shore station, about an hour and 20 minutes on the train, then walking to your work from the station probably puts you around 2 hours one way. The Chicago Dash can take up to 1 hour and 40 mins (depending where dropped off in Chicago), but when you factor in driving to the pick-up spot in Valpo and then walking to your office in Chicago, that too ends up being around 2 hours. Plus, it's $7.50 each way. Believe me, I'm a big fan of Valpo growing up there, but the commute to Chicago from there on a daily basis is just unbearable, I know from experience. The only way I'd consider living there and working in Chicago is if your employer offers free parking in Chicago. Then I'd take the toll road straight up, which would be about an hour and 15 mins and costs would be roughly $10/day in tolls plus gas. Again though, in the winter on heavy snow days, you might double that commute time. Overall, I'd stick with Lake County in the towns I mentioned previously.
11-30-2010, 01:33 PM
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Although I don't see any issues from living in the communities close to Gary that are recommended in this forum, if you truly want to avoid Gary and any bleed over of crime I would recommend Valpo and Chesterton. In addition, your housing price point should get you more house for your money in these communities. If the commute doesn't bother you, both towns have excellent school systems, quality of life and an abundance of amenities for residents. I know many young families who have moved to these towns (and commute to Chicago) and have never looked back.
Best of luck and keep the questions coming to the board as you have them!
11-30-2010, 06:25 PM
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Thank you, Svillechris, Chuckity, and Northwest Indiana. I appreciate everything. I have viewed homes in Munster but could not locate any that fit my price range and accomodate my wife's desires. An hour travel time to DT Chicago, IL does not bother me. I currently drive an hour to work now. Im truly impressed with Valparaiso's and Crown Point's school corporation. We perfer private schools but it appears that most include religious teachings and we feel its our job to supply religious teachings to our daughters.
One thing that does frighten me is the closeness of Gary to Merrillville, Highland, or Schererville. I honestly do not want my family shopping and or living near Gary. I apologize for my feelings to the citizens of Gary, IN, but from personal experience I desire to keep my children and wife away from there. That being said this is an excellent career opportunity for me and Valparaiso and Crown Point schools are excellent within the state of Indiana. [/SIZE][/font]
I completely understand your hesitancy to live or shop near Gary. It's quite an interesting situation, but most of the towns relatively close to Gary don't see any affects of the spillover from Gary. I would argue that only Griffith, Merrillville, and Portage have shown signs of "Gary spillover" regarding the residents that live there. As you can see though, none of these towns were recommended to you. Therefore, any of the other recommended towns honestly do not show any signs of Gary or feel any affects from being relatively close to Gary. So it sounds like you're comfortable with and want roughly an hour commute to work in downtown Chicago and a half hour commute to Gary. With Munster (highly desirable town, but yes it is therefore much more expensive) essentially crossed off your list, my recommendations would be Dyer, Schererville, Highland, or Chesterton. All are safe, have no Gary spillover, have good schools, and appear to fit your desired commute times to both Gary and Chicago.
12-01-2010, 01:43 AM
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What type of home do you and your wife want to get within your price range? Newer or older? Number of bedrooms, etc? This information can help us help you. Thanks!
12-02-2010, 10:18 AM
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Thank you, Svillechris, Chuckity, and Northwest Indiana. I appreciate everything. I have viewed homes in Munster but could not locate any that fit my price range and accomodate my wife's desires. An hour travel time to DT Chicago, IL does not bother me. I currently drive an hour to work now. Im truly impressed with Valparaiso's and Crown Point's school corporation. We perfer private schools but it appears that most include religious teachings and we feel its our job to supply religious teachings to our daughters.
One thing that does frighten me is the closeness of Gary to Merrillville, Highland, or Schererville. I honestly do not want my family shopping and or living near Gary. I apologize for my feelings to the citizens of Gary, IN, but from personal experience I desire to keep my children and wife away from there. That being said this is an excellent career opportunity for me and Valparaiso and Crown Point schools are excellent within the state of Indiana. [/SIZE][/font]
I still recommend Valpo, since you don't mind commuting. All of the communities which you mentioned are not really affected by Gary. Much of Gary is pretty awful, but life in the nearby cities is unaffected by it. The communities which you are considering are all safe and good places to raise a family.
12-02-2010, 12:01 PM
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I still recommend Valpo, since you don't mind commuting. All of the communities which you mentioned are not really affected by Gary. Much of Gary is pretty awful, but life in the nearby cities is unaffected by it. The communities which you are considering are all safe and good places to raise a family.
I thought you said you were at WORK?
12-02-2010, 03:05 PM
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I know people keep saying Valpo - and believe you me, I'm a fan - but you really need to speak with someone who does the commute to get a fair answer. Saying that long of a commute would be okay and actually doing it, are two very different things.
I've been in Valpo a decade and I only know one person who lives in Valpo who commutes to Chgo. I know they exist - but the fact that I only know one soul (and, um, I'm like pretty popular
) who commutes should give you pause.
(And that person only took the job because they had been out of work for almost a year ... pickens were pretty slim.)
IF you do decide to go for Valpo, you'll need to be looking as far north as possible to get you closer to the expressways and train in Chesterton. But go too far north & you'll be in Chesterton's schools - which, are pretty good as well. I live south of 30 in Valpo and it would take me 30-40 minutes to get to the train in Chesterton.
12-02-2010, 05:04 PM
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Yeah, I again agree with Chuckity. Commuting to Chicago from Valpo is DO-able, but there is just no fast way there. It's a commute to get to the freeway, and another commute once you're on the freeway. And it gets expensive as heck when you factor in gas, tolls, wear and tear, weather, or bus/train fares. Then again, commuting to Chicago only 30% of the time is definitely less burdensome and the commute from Valpo to Gary is not nearly as taxing. Definitely stick to the north side though.
Even so, I'd still say Chesterton is a better option if you want to live in Porter County but are commuting to Lake Co. or Chicago. Easy access both the 90 and 80-94 fwys makes for a faster overall commute to both Gary and Chicago. And the train station is there too. Not as many amenities as Valpo b/c it is smaller (but growing), but it has similar housing stock and school quality. It's so well-connected to the entire region that most things Chesterton doesn't have (movie theatres, malls, big box stores, etc) is a 20 minute drive or less whether its to Valpo, Portage, Michigan City, etc. The access to 90 and 94 really does make a huge difference and should be a factor in deciding where to live, especially if you are commuting.
As far as Crown Point goes, I actually have no idea how long it takes to get to Gary or Chicago. I'd imagine it's better than Valpo because you can hop on I-65, but it's pretty far south in Lake County.
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People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)