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Old 05-25-2018, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Population, percent change - April 1, 2010 (estimates base) to July 1, 2017, (V2017)

Hammond -5.2% (80.823->76,128)
Gary -5.4% (80,314->76,008)
Lake Station -4.9% (12,587-> 11,695)
East Chicago -5.0% (29,618->28,215)
Michigan City -1.4%. (31.484->31.056)
La Porte -1.4%. (22,053->21,281)
Valparaiso 5.2%. (31,374->33,104)
Dyer -2.6% (16,390->15,941)
Schererville -2.1%. (29,243-> 28,663)
Munster -3.7% (23,590->22,717)
St. John 15.8%. (14,892->17,259)
Highland -4.7% (23,787->22,585)
Griffith -4.4% (16,893 -> 16,152)
Chesterton 3.1%. (13,095->13,503)
Portage -0.4% (36,828->36,672)
Crown Point 6.4%. (27,841->29,625)
Winfield 25.5%. (4,383-> 5,684
Lowell 3.8% (9,276 -> 9,661)
Cedar Lake 5.4% (11,560 -> 12,447)
Merillville -0.3% (34,971->34,871)
Hobart -0.3% (29,059->29,386)
Just some thoughts:

Gary and Hammond are really slowing their losses. At this rate by the end of the decade both will be under 10% loss. So not hemorrhaging population at quite the same rate.

Tri-Cities, what is going on? St John is killing it but Dyer and Schererville are losing population? What gives?

Munster is a mature town, but is there a reason for the population loss?

Michigan City has also slowed population loss.

Porter County is doing well overall. Portage is anemic. I wouldn’t be surprised if Valpo overtakes it in population within ten years.

Southern Lake County doing okay as well (Cedar Lake, Lowell)

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Old 05-25-2018, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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I really have nothing to add as far as the losses, but I think the reason why places like Cedar Lake, Crown Point, a lot of new homes going up in St. John and the people who are moving there are primarily not from the Chicago South suburbs as everyone thinks. They are moving here from more upper income areas such as Tinley Park, Orland Park, Downers Grove, Plainfield and Naperville. Yes I know several families who moved here from Naperville to get away from the high taxes! I also know many families that have moved here from other places other than Illinois such as Ohio and Michigan. Some families I have met are native to NWI Indiana and moved to St. John from other NWI towns mainly Dyer and Schererville to "move up" and build a bigger more expensive home.


Valparaiso is a fantastic town and I think the only reason why there numbers are not higher is the fact that it is so far from Chicago where a lot of people work. Making the tri-town cities a better option.
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Old 05-25-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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At least here in Miller it seems like the population is growing..althoughhow many are year-round residents is up for debate.

And what about Whiting? Assuming its stable.
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Old 05-25-2018, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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At least here in Miller it seems like the population is growing..althoughhow many are year-round residents is up for debate.

And what about Whiting? Assuming its stable.
For some reason I couldn’t pull up Whiting in the quick facts from the Census website.
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Old 05-27-2018, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Hammond
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Hammond's population loss has actually been well under 10% per decade for the last 30 years. I mentioned this on another thread, but I've noticed that the US Census Bureau consistently overestimates Hammond's population loss and underestimates Gary's loss. In fact you will notice that they always assume they are loosing at the same rate. I wouldn't be surprised based on the last two official census counts versus the estimates that in 2020 Hammond is found to have over 78000 and Gary to only have 72000 or less.

As far as Munster, my guess is that a decrease in average household size is generally in effect. In general Munster is running low on available lots, so unless we see a major densifying of already developed areas, it's population would peak soon anyway. But also we may be seeing less households with large families, and more empty-nesters, singles without children, or families with only a single child. Based on the age of the housing stock, my guess is that it is more of the former than the later two.
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Old 05-28-2018, 06:40 AM
 
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Hammond's population loss has actually been well under 10% per decade for the last 30 years. I mentioned this on another thread, but I've noticed that the US Census Bureau consistently overestimates Hammond's population loss and underestimates Gary's loss. In fact you will notice that they always assume they are loosing at the same rate. I wouldn't be surprised based on the last two official census counts versus the estimates that in 2020 Hammond is found to have over 78000 and Gary to only have 72000 or less.

As far as Munster, my guess is that a decrease in average household size is generally in effect. In general Munster is running low on available lots, so unless we see a major densifying of already developed areas, it's population would peak soon anyway. But also we may be seeing less households with large families, and more empty-nesters, singles without children, or families with only a single child. Based on the age of the housing stock, my guess is that it is more of the former than the later two.
Doesn't West Lakes of Munster still have a lot of undeveloped lots?
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Old 05-28-2018, 07:24 PM
 
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Doesn't West Lakes of Munster still have a lot of undeveloped lots?
They are now developing Phase 4 which was land purchased from the school district since an elementary school was no longer being pursued there. West Lakes has the most "affordable" lots in Munster as they starting at about $98,000 but most going for over $100K for 0.3 acre and smaller. The only other lot opportunities in Munster would be Community Estates which are closer to the $120K or Park West where lots are dwindling down and cost over $300K. The design and size standards that are required in West Lakes (which actually compared to other subdivisions in Munster are not that strict) will ensure that most of the homes being built will be at least $400K and that would be for a ranch-style home. Most of the homes in Phase 4 will probably be in the $500K range. The first home being built in that phase is definitely over $500K and probably over $600k. You are not going to find Olthof, CalAtlantic, or other mass-produced type more affordable homes in Munster due to design restrictions and the restrictive cost of land. The homes being built in Munster are semi-custom or custom homes from more expensive builders. Most young families cannot afford to build a new home in Munster especially as a first home whereas it is more possible in the tai-town area and further out like in Cedar Lake and Crown Point. The schools are still good there and those are great communities. The main trade off would be commute to Chicago.
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Old 05-29-2018, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Hammond
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Doesn't West Lakes of Munster still have a lot of undeveloped lots?

Well even if you assumed there were 200 sites left to build houses upon (between West Lake, Community Estates, a few random lots here and there in more established neighborhoods, and a very small handfull of undeveloped plots such as the undeveloped northern block of Castle Drive north of Ridge Rd) that would only result in a population growth of up to 1000 and only if every one of those houses has 5 people living in it.



Meanwhile many of the other 8600 households in Munster are aging with children moving out or (as current trends tend to be nationwide) smaller families are moving in. The former trend is cyclical for communities; eventually older residents pass away or downsize and a new wave of families move in.
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Old 07-09-2018, 05:52 PM
 
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Tri-Cities, what is going on? St John is killing it but Dyer and Schererville are losing population? What gives?

Southern Lake County doing okay as well (Cedar Lake, Lowell)
People are hearing about Dyer building section 8. I know that is driving some angst. People are starting to flee further south. Dyer still has Briar Ridge, though. That is a wealthy bastion. Cedar Lake area is the new St. John. Some people moving to Cedar Lake to get away from the Lake Central monster. Over 3200 students. That's a large school compared to when I attended.
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:01 PM
 
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Highland is still a nice little community. Great location next to the highway. The big issue, and people are aware, is that the homes are small with small lots. A lot of ranches there. When I look at the real estate sites I do see a good bit of auctions in Highland, too. I have family that just moved from Highland. Where did they move? St. John. They got a bigger home.

I think back on growing up. Large families were raised in those smaller Highland ranch homes. Highland still has a solid community feel to it.
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