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Old 01-08-2024, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Chi 'burbs=>Tucson=>Naperville=>Chicago
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Any thoughts on University Of Chicago's investment in NWI???

And yes, I'd add Michigan City, St. John, and Miller Beach to your list.....
Michigan City??? Dude, that's almost to the Michigan border - not even in the Chicago metro area. You gonna claim New Buffalo next?
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Old 01-08-2024, 07:38 AM
 
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When one of the NWI burbs breach 100K in population, I'll start paying attention a bit more.

Hammond is at 77K - and that place is one of the ugliest municipalities I've ever seen.
Gary, which was over 100K 15 years ago, is down to 69K and looks like a bombed out war zone.

Every other suburb over there is small. There are some nice towns there, and I have no issue with people liking it.

Chicago area is about 9.5M people, and about 700K of that is in Indiana. 7%. Maybe it'll get to 10-12% in the next 20-30 years.
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Old 01-08-2024, 10:49 AM
 
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The University of Chicago sits just what? Less than ten miles from Indiana directly on the South Shore line. It has connections to the region that go back a century, similar to Northwestern' University connections to the North Shore where I grew up.

In fact it was UC alumni and students who led the push to create the Dunes parks. And ever heard of the movie Indiana Jones...he was a UC guy with obvious connection to the region.

Btw, Purdue University, arguably the most successful engineering school on the planet has opened a research facility in the region to tap into Chicagoland connections/talent. Again, something beneficial to the entire Metro.

https://www.valpo.edu/stories/2023/1...hwest-indiana/

UC is also partnering with Valparaiso University and has multiple cancer treatment centers in NWI. It obviously is on board with the Regions growth.

https://www.newswise.com/articles/uc...thwest-indiana
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Old 01-08-2024, 11:14 AM
 
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Michigan City??? Dude, that's almost to the Michigan border - not even in the Chicago metro area. You gonna claim New Buffalo next?
The South Shore line is undergoing almost 1,000,000,000 in capital improvements including the soon to be complete double track that will cut travel times between Michigan City and Millennium Station (the South Shore line boasts the best locations of stations in the city including Museum Campus, McCormick Place and Hyde Park btw) to just over an hour. That's why some half a billion in downtown MC developments are in the pipeline.

The South Shore is also adding a second line south to Dyer in West Lake county.

The state of Indiana has never been this proactive in terms of working with NWI leaders on such projects, something that bodes well for the Region, as in the past, relations between Indy and NWI were often rather frosty.
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Old 01-10-2024, 12:45 PM
 
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The South Shore line is undergoing almost 1,000,000,000 in capital improvements including the soon to be complete double track that will cut travel times between Michigan City and Millennium Station (the South Shore line boasts the best locations of stations in the city including Museum Campus, McCormick Place and Hyde Park btw) to just over an hour. That's why some half a billion in downtown MC developments are in the pipeline.

The South Shore is also adding a second line south to Dyer in West Lake county.

The state of Indiana has never been this proactive in terms of working with NWI leaders on such projects, something that bodes well for the Region, as in the past, relations between Indy and NWI were often rather frosty.
I hope they do it - surely would help.

Debatable whether those stations are the best locations. Not many people work in Hyde Park. Let's face it, most people take the trains to work, not to play. It's not even remotely close, the numbers.

Union Station/Oglivie are extremely proximate to Wacker Drive, where a huge amount of the office jobs are. Taking the south shore and getting off at the museum campus is good for.....people going to the museums only. I had a coworker who took the south shore and hated that.
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Old 01-10-2024, 02:33 PM
 
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I hope they do it - surely would help.

Debatable whether those stations are the best locations. Not many people work in Hyde Park. Let's face it, most people take the trains to work, not to play. It's not even remotely close, the numbers.

Union Station/Oglivie are extremely proximate to Wacker Drive, where a huge amount of the office jobs are. Taking the south shore and getting off at the museum campus is good for.....people going to the museums only. I had a coworker who took the south shore and hated that.
Do you not know the Shore Shore goes right to Randolph & Michigan?
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Old 01-11-2024, 11:12 AM
 
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Do you not know the Shore Shore goes right to Randolph & Michigan?
Yes.

Most people I know work on/near Wacker Drive. Pretty far from Mich Ave. And close to the other train stations.

Though I did work in the Aon Center once - that sucked from Union and would have been better from south shore.

Wacker is still the preeminent office building stretch. Very convenient to Union or Oglivie.
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Old 01-12-2024, 01:42 AM
 
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Yes.

Most people I know work on/near Wacker Drive. Pretty far from Mich Ave. And close to the other train stations.

Though I did work in the Aon Center once - that sucked from Union and would have been better from south shore.

Wacker is still the preeminent office building stretch. Very convenient to Union or Oglivie.

The South Shore Line....from the Bean to South Bend...via Van Buren, Museum Campus, McCormick Place, Hyde Park/University of Chicago,a reborn downtown Hammond, Gary Airport,,/a reborn Downtown Gary, Miller Beach, Dunes Park, a booming Michigan City ending at an extension of the South Shore from the South Bend Airport to downtown South Bend....

Nothing quite like the South Shore Line....
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Old 01-12-2024, 04:49 AM
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NW Indiana would be booming a lot more if not for the fact that Illinois and Indiana are not reciprocal states (like Indiana is with Michigan, Kentucky, Ohio and even Wisconsin) so Illinois taxes income on Indiana residents that work in Illinois. Illinois has always done whatever it could to limit the viability of NW Indiana as a Chicago suburb. Even the double track project ends at the state line and conversations to extend that further using the federal funding went nowhere for obvious reasons.

IMO NW Indiana will continue to grow but not at a hyper accelerated pace any time soon until businesses actually relocate like they have in the Western, Northern Chicagoland suburbs. Slow and steady best describes the development of NW Indiana even though they might see spikes of growth here and there on occasion.
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Old 01-12-2024, 12:37 PM
 
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The South Shore Line....from the Bean to South Bend...via Van Buren, Museum Campus, McCormick Place, Hyde Park/University of Chicago,a reborn downtown Hammond, Gary Airport,,/a reborn Downtown Gary, Miller Beach, Dunes Park, a booming Michigan City ending at an extension of the South Shore from the South Bend Airport to downtown South Bend....

Nothing quite like the South Shore Line....
LOL

whatever you are smoking, I want some.

I'm sure everyone will flock to Gary's downtown, in the shadow of the glorious steel mills belching into the air, with neighbors under the poverty line. Nobody with means will choose to live there, and very few will visit. The casinos didn't work.

Hammond has a better shot. But it'll never compete with downtown Naperville.

Does Gary airport even transport commercial customers?
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