05-10-2014, 12:42 AM
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General opinions & thoughts ---> which side has the better living and why: Town or Windward? All things considered...
Mahalo for your time and input.
05-10-2014, 02:29 AM
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Assuming you want to know so you can make a decision yourself? If so we need more info. Where do you work? Where do you play? Where do you frequently shop or run errands? Need to be close to the beach? Are you social or a hermit? Do you like to go out at night? Do you mind sitting in traffic and spending more on gas? Kids? Where do they attend school? Do you want more sun or less sun? More rain or less rain? Are you particular about demographics of surrounding neighbors? What's your monthly rent or buy budget? Do you want to live in a condo, townhome or SFH? If SFH, do you need a large yard?
05-14-2014, 03:19 AM
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Assuming you want to know so you can make a decision yourself? If so we need more info. Where do you work? Where do you play? Where do you frequently shop or run errands? Need to be close to the beach? Are you social or a hermit? Do you like to go out at night? Do you mind sitting in traffic and spending more on gas? Kids? Where do they attend school? Do you want more sun or less sun? More rain or less rain? Are you particular about demographics of surrounding neighbors? What's your monthly rent or buy budget? Do you want to live in a condo, townhome or SFH? If SFH, do you need a large yard?
Hi pj737, I'm just wondering what others in the community think based on their experiences of living in or visiting these two sides of the island...or more specifically these five different real estate sections. I've looked at many open houses over the past year or so in all of these areas, sometimes just for fun and other times to try to gauge the many different neighborhoods' pros & cons in comparison to all the others for future potential moves / home buying. Some answers to your questions though specifically for myself: work mostly in the Kailua area, play at the surfing beaches island wide, tend to use the military installations or places like Foodland/Target/WalMart/etc for groceries and shopping errands, within reasonable commuting distance to multiple beaches with quality surf is somewhat important, maybe a bit more of a hermit in relation to the nighttime hours, hate traffic and of course don't want to spend a fortune on gas like most people, no kids at the current time (maybe in the future), i'd probably send them to 'at least' public elementary PK-6th, prefer sun for sure but maybe a reasonable mix with good tradewind flow so we can minimize A/C use and mostly rely on open windows and fans (definitely can't do very rainy all the time with the mold issues, mosquitoes, etc), only concerns about neighbors is reasonable quietness and upkept properties, buy budget I guess lets stick with less than a million, single family home, and at least 5000 sqft land with some kind of decent mostly flat backyard (bigger the better of course), the side of the cliff terraced lot homes don't appeal to us since they usually lack a yard even though the views are often fantastic. I have dogs also. Thanks everyone...
05-14-2014, 11:42 PM
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Honestly, OP you and your family should make a recon trip. Your questions cast a net far and wide, and I don't think can be adequately answered on a forum such as this one. If you plan to spend less than a $1mil on a house or condo, you should look at what that will buy in your particular areas of interest. Don't be stunned by what you find. Carefully research the schools. This is stuff you personally need to do. Good luck!
05-15-2014, 12:09 AM
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Hmmm, hate traffic. Work in Kailua. Windward seems an easy choice.
05-15-2014, 01:56 AM
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I would agree with viper that the Kailua area would be the best location for you since you work the most there. One consideration is that the public elementary schools in Kailua are not quite as desirable as those in Manoa or Nuuanu. But I do believe there are at least a couple that rank closely in the Kailua area. Hawaii Kai has some great schools too. I attended Kamiloiki myself and didn't turn out half bad
. If traffic drives you bonkers though you'll want to live as close to the place where you work. Traffic is a major quality of life issue on Oahu.
05-16-2014, 12:09 AM
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I would agree with viper that the Kailua area would be the best location for you since you work the most there. One consideration is that the public elementary schools in Kailua are not quite as desirable as those in Manoa or Nuuanu. But I do believe there are at least a couple that rank closely in the Kailua area. Hawaii Kai has some great schools too. I attended Kamiloiki myself and didn't turn out half bad
. If traffic drives you bonkers though you'll want to live as close to the place where you work. Traffic is a major quality of life issue on Oahu.
Thanks all.
Yeah, it seems that its more of a Kailua v.s. Hawaii Kai <or possibly the Diamond Head area> battle at this point. Nuuanu, Manoa, Kaneohe are a bit too rainy for us i think (used to live in Temple Valley, beautiful and lush but rains very often / some mosquitoes / and many personal items got moldy quick - even inside bedroom closets). Also lived in Moili'ili years ago, fun but I dont think most of Town really has what we'd truly be looking for at this point. I've heard good things about the schools in Hawaii Kai, especially the high school. I dont think Kalaheo is too bad in Kailua, but mixed reviews of Kailua HS for sure. It seems like quite a few of the elementary schools in the area are decent though and rave reviews of LeJardin Academy and most other private schools. The commute from/to Hawaii Kai and to/from the Kailua area would probably be reasonable if taking Kalanianaole Hwy I would think. I'm a bit concerned about the extra heat in the Hawaii Kai area during the warmer months, but not much else. Sections of Aina Haina and Niu Valley are quite nice also for that price point, but a bit longer drive i'm sure with more traffic. Tough one, lots of nice neighborhoods to consider.
05-16-2014, 02:17 AM
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. The commute from/to Hawaii Kai and to/from the Kailua area would probably be reasonable if taking Kalanianaole Hwy I would think.
I wouldn't count on that.
Hawaii Kai from where I live - Keolu Hills, is 30 minutes without traffic. Not bad, and really scenic.
But....
Often I'll see cars backed up on Kalanianaole Hwy just past Keolu Drive, which means traffic is backed up until the first stoplight in Waimanalo, which makes for a long drive.
And, an accident on Kalanianaole, (they happen a lot) - good luck, you aren't getting home.
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Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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. If traffic drives you bonkers though you'll want to live as close to the place where you work. Traffic is a major quality of life issue on Oahu.
Yeah, it seems that its more of a Kailua v.s. Hawaii Kai <or possibly the Diamond Head area> battle at this point. Nuuanu, Manoa, Kaneohe are a bit too rainy for us i think (used to live in Temple Valley, beautiful and lush but rains very often / some mosquitoes / and many personal items got moldy quick - even inside bedroom closets). Also lived in Moili'ili years ago, fun but I dont think most of Town really has what we'd truly be looking for at this point. I've heard good things about the schools in Hawaii Kai, especially the high school. I dont think Kalaheo is too bad in Kailua, but mixed reviews of Kailua HS for sure. It seems like quite a few of the elementary schools in the area are decent though and rave reviews of LeJardin Academy and most other private schools. The commute from/to Hawaii Kai and to/from the Kailua area would probably be reasonable if taking Kalanianaole Hwy I would think. I'm a bit concerned about the extra heat in the Hawaii Kai area during the warmer months, but not much else. Sections of Aina Haina and Niu Valley are quite nice also for that price point, but a bit longer drive i'm sure with more traffic. Tough one, lots of nice neighborhoods to consider. 
