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Old 06-29-2015, 02:24 PM
 
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Kakaako is a perfect launch point to build - depending on location, some will be able to walk to work downtown or Ala Moana - others will bike - and more will take a very short bus ride. Same thing goes for Waikiki - some will bike and more would be willing to take a short bus ride.

By building in Kakaako, far more cars will come off the road than rail will ever accomplish.
Agreed. But we need a massive leap in bike infrastructure in order to accomplish that. Electric bikes are HUGE in Europe in Asia now... and their popularity is soaring to levels nobody predicted. Hawaii is the perfect place to adopt widespread barricaded bike lane infrastructure. Add affordable electric bikes and you have an effortless, sweatless commute to work - with hills and all. And you'll get to work MUCH faster than if you commuted by vehicle - something rail doesn't accomplish.

Lithium ion battery prices are plummeting through the floor. Once a big company in the states starts producing affordable electric bikes it will transform the way in-town commuters get to work. Unless cargo-hauling is a requirement, there will be no reason or excuse to ever drive a car if you live in the urban core.

The only good thing Caldwell did was push bicycle culture on Oahu. Hopefully he doesn't listen to the public on this one (which is heavily against sacrificing car lanes for bike lanes). He has a once in a lifetime opportunity to transform transportation in the urban core.
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Old 06-29-2015, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Agreed. But we need a massive leap in bike infrastructure in order to accomplish that. Electric bikes are HUGE in Europe in Asia now... and their popularity is soaring to levels nobody predicted. Hawaii is the perfect place to adopt widespread barricaded bike lane infrastructure.
Just saw today about Ford jumping into electric bikes.

I agree about bike infrastructure - but I'm not a fan on how they did King Street, there has to be a better way - making a left turn just isn't safe right now for bikes and cars.

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Old 06-29-2015, 02:54 PM
 
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I agree about bike infrastructure - but I'm not a fan on how they did King Street, there has to be a better way - making a left turn just isn't safe right now for bikes and cars.
There is nothing wrong with the way the King St cycle track works. It works perfectly. Everyone complains about it but nobody can come up with a better option. Why? Because there is none. The option is to dismantle the cycle track altogether. That's the "solution".

How hard is it to look left and right when pulling out of a driveway? How hard is it to look to see if a cyclist is coming before you execute that left turn? Isn't that what you did for pedestrians BEFORE the cycle track was installed? In addition to making cycling safer, the cycle track has made crosswalks on King much safer because there is a much larger buffer area between the left turn lane and the impact zone inside the crosswalk. This safety aspect for pedestrians ALONE justifies the existence of the cycle track. People are also much more aware of their surroundings when approaching intersections now. The bike lane has improved pedestrian safety markedly... but nobody seems to care.

The public is highly against the cycle track because the public is selfish. They want to embrace their car culture; they don't want to give up a single parking stall or driving lane to accommodate cyclists. They're too ignorant to see the long term benefits (which are staggering) of providing bicycle infrastructure. They don't care simply because they themselves don't ride a bike. It's sad really.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Everyone complains about it but nobody can come up with a better option.
An option would have picking a less busier street or exploring the ocean side of Ala Moana Blvd.
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Old 06-29-2015, 04:19 PM
 
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An option would have picking a less busier street or exploring the ocean side of Ala Moana Blvd.
Ok. What street exactly? Sharrows are already painted on Young Street. Putting a bikelane along the ocean does not serve as a true commuter option for cyclists. The route needs to be centrally located between makai and mauka to serve the most people and to reduce the necessary miles of riding required to access the track.

Numerous studies were conducted before the cycle track was installed. It's the very best implementation of barricaded bicycle lane infrastructure possible considering what we had to work with.

Again, there is no viable alternative.
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Old 06-30-2015, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Aiea, Hawaii
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Gov. David Ige informed the Hawaii State Legislature Monday of his intent to veto several bills.
(HB134 which extends the half percent county surcharge on State tax for two, ten-year extensions to fund additional Honolulu Authority for Rapid Transportation (HART) transit routes) is not one of them!

Governor releases ‘Intent to Veto’ list, does not include medical marijuana, GET extension | KHON2
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Old 06-30-2015, 04:13 AM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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I used to commute exactly along the ocean side of Ala Moana between Waikiki and downtown Honolulu. Used to ride my bike, too. It was a lovely ride, scenic, pretty flat, bypassed all the traffic. Didn't rain much. What's not to like? That was with a pedal bike, having an electric bike would be even easier.

We have electric bikes now, they are pretty good although the batteries could last longer if you're dealing with hills.
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Old 07-03-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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The rail was never intended to reduce traffic, just minimize the growth and try to hold it steady.
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Old 07-03-2015, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Business will be growing on the West side over the next decade (along with housing though certainly not equal), we have the huge open mall going in, and Hoopili will be residential, commercial, industrial, farms, and mixed use.

Hey maybe the Leg should consider some sort of tax incentive to owners to work on this side? Something that allows families to take a pay cut but get the money back? Along with incentives for business to be out here (or are they already doing that?).

We have a small community of mainly people who are retired, or with one working household member. Those that work at PH actually kayak over and it takes only 10 minutes.
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Old 07-03-2015, 12:02 PM
 
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The rail was never intended to reduce traffic, just minimize the growth and try to hold it steady.
The rail is only going to make traffic worse because of the vast number of housing units it's green-lighting. If rail wasn't built, 80% of the housing projects going up in West Oahu over the coming 10 years would never have been approved and more land could have been preserved for agriculture.
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